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Subject: Re: LOL... Faggot Cuntnadian Doesn't Know Trump's A Billionaire - Everyone Else Without TDS Does - "Yes, Trump Is Still A Billionaire" - Forbes
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2024 01:06:37 -0600
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On Sat, 7 Dec 2024 17:05:21 -0800,  Alan says...  

> > He's richer than you.
> 
> Probably.
> 
> That doesn't mean he's actually a billionaire.

Too bad... he is.

YOU say he's not, and no, you can't play that bullshit liberal semantics game 
of "I never said he wasn't... I just said we don't know", ain't gonna 
fly here, faggot.

YOU say you don't know, and the only reason you say he isn't, is because we 
say he is.

That's all you EVER do here, playing the pedantic pussy contrarian. You have 
NO reason to say he's not, other than to be a troll.



"Forbes has assessed his wealth, currently estimating it at $5.5 billion as of 
mid-November 2024. Meanwhile, Bloomberg estimates his wealth at $6.32 
billion as of the same date..."

If Forbes and Bloomberg are "estimating" assets and liabilities, THEY know 
he's a billionaire... so... Trump IS a billionaire.

By all means prove me wrong, instead of using your faggot pedantic semantics, 
whining: "Weee donnnn't knnnnow if he issss, or nnnnot!", show us his 
holdings and assets and liabilities and PROVE he's not.

You can't, so you use that bullshit of "we don't know."

If you can't prove he's not?

PLONK!

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Yes, Trump Is Still A Billionaire - Forbes

News broke that Donald Trump paid $0 of income taxes in 2020, rekindling a 
longstanding theory that the former president is not actually a 
billionaire.

THAT THEORY IS WRONG. In fact, Trump's assets are worth an estimated $4.3 
billion, making his net worth $3.2 billion after ACCOUNTING FOR $1.1 
BILLION OF DEBT. The former president owns real stuff-mansions, golf courses, 
office buildings-that throw off real cash, even if his tax returns 
might suggest otherwise.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2022/12/22/yes-trump-is-still-a-
billionaire-even-though-he-paid-so-little-in-taxes/

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"Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition

All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS.

"Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has 
been driven effectively insane due to their dislike of Donald Trump, to 
the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."

Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the 
Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into three distinct phases 
or stages:

"In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The 
president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm, as if 140 
characters were all it took to change the world."

"The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's 
vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting solely of 
hyperbole."

"As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from 
reality."

The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the knee-jerk 
opposition from liberals to anything and everything Trump does. If 
Trump announced he was donating every dollar he's ever made, TDS sufferers 
would suggest he was up to something nefarious, according to the logic of 
TDS. There's nothing - not. one. thing. - that Trump could do or say that 
would be received positively by TDSers.

The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the early 
2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was a punch line for 
late-night comics and nothing more.

Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first 
coined by the late conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer back in 2003. 
The condition, as Krauthammer defined it, was "the acute onset of paranoia in 
otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency - 
nay - the very existence of George W. Bush."

Added Krauthammer:

"Some clinicians consider this delusion - that Americans can only get their 
news from one part of the political spectrum - the gravest of all. They 
report that no matter how many times sufferers in padded cells are presented 
with flash cards with the symbols ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, NPR, PBS, 
Time, Newsweek, New York Times, Washington Post, L.A. Times - they remain 
unresponsive, some in a terrifying near-catatonic torpor."

(If you don't realize the idea of TDS or BDS is - in no small part - meant in 
a tongue-in-cheek manner then, well, you may well have it.)

Trump allies believe that TDS is worse than ODS or BDS - by a lot. Wrote 
conservative pundit Bernie Goldberg on Real Clear Politics in early 2017:

"Before the election, the victims of TDS routinely compared Donald Trump to 
Hitler. Guess what. They're still doing it. Articles in respectable 
publications written by professors at elite universities are warning us to be 
on guard, that a Trump presidency could imperil democracy-as-we-know-it 
and may very well spell doom for American civilization.

"On election night, as it became obvious that their worst nightmare was about 
to come true, some libs fainted. Some vomited. Many more threatened to 
leave the country, but I'm pretty sure none actually did. As Donald Trump 
might say in a tweet: so sad!"

The truth is that TDS is just the preferred nomenclature of Trump defenders 
who view those who oppose him and his policies as nothing more than the 
blind hatred of those who preach tolerance and free speech. Viewed more 
broadly, the rise of presidential derangement syndromes is a function of 
increased polarization - not to mention our national self-sorting - at work in 
the country today.

We no longer live around, work around or pal around with people who think any 
differently than us. We watch cable news that affirms what we already 
think. We read ideological "news" sites that tell us how good our side is and 
how bad the other one is. And on and on and on.

Is it any wonder then that we are increasingly willing to lump those who 
disagree with us into the "deranged" category? To say that those who don't 
share our views are mentally deficient in some way?

What does it say about a President - and about a country - when the standard 
response to those with whom you disagree is that they must be crazy? 
Nothing good, for sure. 

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Many clinicians, political commentators, and members of the public have 
speculated upon the mental health of President Donald Trump. Indeed, over 
70,000 people self-identifying as "mental health professionals" have signed a 
petition declaring that "Trump is mentally ill and must be removed." In 
sociological terms, the "medical gaze" has been hitherto focused on President 
Trump, and to a lesser extent his ardent supporters.

However, in recent months, many have been questioning the direction of this 
"medical gaze." In fact, more and more people are suggesting that this 
"medical gaze" should be reversed and refocused on President Trump's most 
embittered and partisan opponents. Some have even suggested that these 
opponents are experiencing a specific mental condition-a condition which has 
been labelled "Trump Derangement Syndrome" (TDS).
What does DSM-5 say about "Trump Derangement Syndrome"?

Mental illnesses are officially classified in a dense and dry book published 
by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) known as the Diagnostic 
and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition (DSM-5). This book 
contains 947 pages and lists hundreds of mental disorders; TDS is 
nowhere to be seen. Similarly, a review of scholarly databases such as MEDLINE 
and Google Scholar reveal no academic papers on this alleged syndrome. 
Officially at least, TDS is not a real, diagnosable, or treatable mental 
disorder.

That said, medical anthropologists and critical sociologists have convincingly 
argued that DSM-5 is a flawed document. Indeed, social scientists have 
long recognized that there are numerous "folk categories" of mental disorders 
that are considered real conditions by the general public, even though 
they are not recognized as such in the DSM. These include categories such as 
"burnout" or "nervous breakdown."

As such, lack of official recognition does not mean that TDS is not a real 
mental condition.


Lay Understandings of "Trump Derangement Syndrome"

There is no shared lay understanding of TDS, mainly because it is a folk 
category rather than a professional category. As such, there is currently 
much armchair speculation about the nature and existence of TDS, without 
consensus.

The name itself explicitly suggests a "syndrome," which the Oxford English 
Dictionary defines as "a characteristic combination of opinions, emotions, 
or behavior." Several commentators have run with this, putting forth 
suggestions about opinions, emotions and behaviors characterizing TDS.

Shared amongst these is a notion that the everyday activities of President 
Trump trigger some people into distorted opinions, extreme emotions and 
hysterical behaviors. Well-known writer Bernard Goldberg gives supposed 
behavioral examples of TDS among Trump's political opponents, including 
fainting, vomiting, students retreating to "safe spaces" and others demanding 
"therapy dogs." Political commentator Justin Raimondo focuses on 
opinions, language and cognition, writing in the LA Times that "sufferers 
speak a distinctive language consisting of hyperbole [leading to] a 
constant state of hysteria... the afflicted lose touch with reality."

Such forms of highly emotional reaction could be something akin to the 
fainting and screaming characterizing American Beatlemania in the 1960s. 
Unlike the Beatles, however, the extreme emotional reaction alleged to 
characterize TDS is not based on adoration and admiration, but on fear and 
loathing.

Contrariwise, many others ridicule the notion that TDS is anything but a 
malicious slur term used to discredit and delegitimize criticism of 
President Trump. For example, CNN's Chris Cillizza may speak for many when he 
stated: "The truth is that TDS is just the preferred nomenclature of 
Trump defenders who view those who oppose him and his policies as nothing more 
than blind hatred." Likewise, Adam Gopnik writes that "our problem is 
not TDS; our problem is Deranged Trump Self-Delusion."

In other words, there are polarized opinions about the nature, reality and 
existence of TDS.


Conclusion

The wider public may be unaware that psychiatrists and social scientists spend 
considerable time and energy behind closed doors pondering over the 
existence and reality of mental conditions. This has led the APA to revise the 
DSM five times since 1952, considerably expanding the list of official 
mental disorders with each revision. As far as I am aware, few psychiatrists 
are currently arguing that DSM-6 should contain TDS as a mental 
disorder.

That said, in its official definition of mental disorder, the DSM-5 states 
that "a mental disorder is a syndrome characterized by clinically 
significant disturbance in an individual's cognition, emotion regulation, or 
behavior... mental disorders are usually associated with significant 
distress in social, occupational, or other important activities."

Many have argued that some people have been seriously disturbed and distressed 
by the policies, speech, behavior, and tweets of President Trump, so 
much so that it has affected their cognitive, affective, and behavioral 
functioning. Such people may need mental health support. As such, further 
research is necessary to investigate the extreme reactions toward President 
Trump, in the same way that researchers investigate other extreme social 
phenomena, such as Beatlemania or the like. This will shed light on the 
reality of this emerging folk category that has been labelled by many as 
"Trump Derangement Syndrome." 


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