From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Trump Never A Convicted Felon - Bonus: Ski Bunny Fails Again -
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2024 14:12:49 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2024-12-17 14:08, Alan wrote:
> On 2024-12-17 13:12, AlleyCat wrote:
>>
>> Show us the law or term that IMPLICITLY says a person is a
>> "convicted felon" the moment the jury's decision is read, and BEFORE
>> sentencing. NOT "convicted OF a felony"... a "convicted felon".
>>
>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 13:01:51 -0800, Alan says...
>>
>>> Once a jury's verdict is read it is in the record, and the person
>>> found guilty is convicted.
>>
>> So, that would be a "can't" on the "show us the law or term that
>> IMPLICITLY says a person is a 'convicted felon' the moment the
>> jury's decision is read, and BEFORE sentencing."
>
> I already did that. I literally quoted the law that shows that a pre-
> sentencing report must be done after conviction.
>
> Ergo, conviction CANNOT take place at the sentencing hearing.
>
>>
>> Gotcha.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> PLONK!
> Running away.
>
> Gotcha.
>
> :-)
Just to rub it in:
'Former President Donald Trump completed his pre-sentencing interview
with the New York City Department of Probation on Monday after his hush
money trial conviction last month, a source familiar with the
proceedings told CNN.'
<https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/10/politics/trump-probation-office-interview-hush-money/index.html>
'A Judge uses a pre-sentence report to help decide the defendantâs
punishment for the crime. The pre-sentence report is made by probation
officers. The report is made after the conviction and before the date
for Sentencing in felony and serious misdemeanor cases.'
<https://www.nycourts.gov/courthelp/criminal/preSentenceReport.shtml>