From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Trump Never A Convicted Felon
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 22:42:50 -0600
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 19:58:40 -0800, Alan says...
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> On 2024-12-18 19:35, AlleyCat wrote:
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> > On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 19:07:25 -0800, Alan says...
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> >> And he was convicted of felonies.
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> > Doesn't make him a felon untilllll...
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> > The judge hasn't entered the JUDGMENT OF GUILT yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a "convicted felon".
> There is no such thing in NY State law.
Yes, there is... it may not be called the EXACT same thing, but I bet there IS something in the law that "echoes" "Judgment of Guilt".
Sentencing? Is there nothing in NY law about sentencing?
What is that called?
I bet you anything there IS something in the law that describes the procedure for making the judgment official and then sentencing occurs, so...
PLONK!
1. judging
2. judgment
3. assessment
4. opinion
5. discernment
6. mind
7. sagacity
8. sagaciousness
9. perspicacity
10. Judicial Decision
11. sound judgment
12. sound judgment
13. condemnation
14. verdict
15. conviction********************
16. adjudication
17. pronouncement
18. decision
19. rebuke
20. reasoning
21. perception
22. determination
23. prudence
24. misjudgment
25. prejudgment
26. acquittal
27. decree
28. adjudging
29. lapse
30. judgmentalism
31. prejudice
32. wisdom
33. evaluation
34. jugement
35. judgmental
36. competence
37. disposition
38. commination
39. knowledge
40. interpretation
41. observation
42. presumption
43. unappealable
44. indifferency
45. judicial
46. ruling
47. reproval
48. prejudgment
49. conscience
50. vindication
51. overruling
52. inference
53. counsel
54. enjoinder
55. decision-making
56. righteousness
57. punishment
58. estimation
59. unwisdom
60. truthfulness
61. injunction
62. reckoning
63. prediction
64. execution
65. reviewability
66. consideration
67. dismissal
68. wrath
69. retribution
70. confidence
71. condescendence
72. faith
73. decisiveness
74. criticism
75. validity
76. denunciation
77. grammaticality
78. appeal
79. conclusiveness
80. tribunal
81. objectiveness
82. prosecution
83. precipitancy
84. doctrine
85. liability
86. perceptivity
87. appellate
88. inadvertency
89. court
90. nonacceptance
91. peremptory
92. declaratory
93. arbitrament
94. competency
95. affirmance
96. impenitence
97. repentance
98. merit
99. belief
100. testimony
Hmmm... no "felon".
1. guiltiness
2. guilty conscience
3. guilt trip
4. guilt feelings
5. remorse
6. culpability
7. guiltlessness
8. resentment
9. anxiety
10. unworthiness
11. sadness
12. innocence
13. helplessness
14. grief
15. pangs
16. conscience
17. sorrow
18. angst
19. anguish
20. ambivalence
21. unconfessed
22. anger
23. jealousy
24. worthlessness
25. hopelessness
26. sinfulness
27. fear
28. wrongdoing
29. embarrassment
30. sheepishness
31. bitterness
32. apprehension
33. recrimination
34. sins
35. uneasiness
36. resentfulness
37. incrimination
38. shame
39. compunction
40. powerlessness
41. complicity
42. heartache
43. revulsion
44. feelings
45. unease
46. smugness
47. blamelessness
48. expiate
49. unhappiness
50. despair
51. pain
52. neurosis
53. prejudice
54. presumption
55. betrayal
56. twinge
57. inadequacy
58. indignation
59. vengefulness
60. heartsickness
61. selfishness
62. wrongness
63. Burden
64. assuaging
65. loneliness
66. misgiving
67. tiredness
68. shamefulness
69. hatred
70. exculpation
71. frustration
72. exhaustion
73. confession
74. disloyalty
75. indignance
76. faithlessness
77. paranoia
78. irresponsibility
79. unfulfillment
80. absolved
81. loathing
82. indulgence
83. expiation
84. heinousness
85. nervousness
86. alienation
87. atonement
88. unworth
89. weariness
90. aggravation
91. insecurity
92. responsibility
93. embarrassment
94. regret
95. disgust
96. abhorrence
97. accusation
98. conviction
99. misery
100. laziness
Hmmm... no "felon".
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The judge hasn't entered the JUDGMENT OF GUILT yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a "convicted felon".
Rubenfeld emphasized that Trump is not yet a convicted felon because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT.
See? Pansy-ass little child thinks he's smarter than a REAL lawyer.
Has the JUDGE entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT? HAS he, Juan Merchan, approved the verdict and enter a final judgment?
Nope and nope, so no... Trump is still NOT A CONVICTED FELON. Doesn't REALLY matter though... does it? (see below)
You should simply have read this article which explains it... even in New York:
Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN NEW YORK,
this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.
You lose again, loser.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's
Marriage. Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.
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According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon
https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/
May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a
lot but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of major publications have used such language in their stories about
the Trump verdict, hence
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Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon
Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained that in New York,
this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/why-donald-trump-isnt-a-convicted-felon-yet/ar-BB1no6oV
Until then, he remains NOT A CONVICTED FELON, but that could change depending on the outcome. Read more: What's Really Going On With Donald Trump's
Marriage. Trump's Sentencing Isn't Until July 2024.
=====
According To One Legal Expert, Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon
https://www.grunge.com/1593064/donald-trump-not-convicted-felon-heres-why/
May 31, 2024 - "FYI: due to odd quirk in the law, TRUMP IS NOT A 'CONVICTED FELON' UNTIL SENTENCING, which is July 11 - Th. You will hear that term a
lot but it's legally inaccurate until July 11 - Th," he wrote. So far, a number of major publications have used such language in their stories about
the Trump verdict, hence
=====
Donald Trump Isn't A Convicted Felon
Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON because the judge has not entered a JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained that in New York,
this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.
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Why TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT After His Conviction - NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-still-run-president-guilty-verdict-conviction-rcna154801
May 30, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president after his hush money conviction? The former president was convicted on 34 felony counts of
falsifying business records and will be sentenced on July 11.
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Can Trump Still Run For President? Can He Still Vote? - CNN
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/30/politics/can-trump-still-run-for-president-what-matters/index.html
May 30, 2024 - Now that a New York jury has convicted former President Donald Trump of all 34 felony charges of falsifying business records, the next
obvious question is: Can a convicted felon run for president?
The US Constitution lays out just three requirements for presidential candidates. They must:
Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.
Trump meets all three requirements.
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Trump Is Now A Convicted Felon: Can He Still Run For President? - USA TODAY -
https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/05/30/donald-trump-convicted-felony-president/73904298007/
May 30, 20241:09. Donald Trump is the first former president convicted of a crime in U.S. history, BUT IT WON'T STOP HIM FROM RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT
AGAIN. His conviction on Thursday does not bar him from ...
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Trump Guilty Plea: Can He Still Run For President? Questions Answered
https://www.usaToday - .com/story/news/2024/05/31/donald-trump-guilty-what-happens-now-7-major-questions-answered-jail-president-vote-cohen-
daniels/73920427007/
May 31, 2024 - Can Trump still run for president in 2024? Yes. The U.S. Constitution does not bar anyone from running for president after they become
a felon. The only qualifications are the following:
Be a natural born citizen.
Be at least 35 years old.
Have been a US resident for at least 14 years.
Trump meets all three requirements.
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YES, INDICTED TRUMP CAN STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT, But Winning Is A ...
https://www.npr.org/2023/03/22/1164822171/trump-run-president-campaign-arrest-charges-voters-indictment
Mar 22, 2023 - Yes, Trump can run for president. Fortunately for Trump, there's nothing in the Constitution prohibiting candidates with criminal
records from holding office. In fact, an individual only has to be ...
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What Happens After Trump Is Convicted In NY Trial? | TIME
https://time.com/6980638/what-happens-if-donald-trump-convicted/
May 21, 2024 - CAN TRUMP STILL RUN FOR PRESIDENT? YES. A felony conviction will not disqualify Trump from continuing his presidential campaign, even
if he were jailed.
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Could Trump Become President After Being Convicted Of A Crime? - Los ...
https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2024-04-15/trump-trial-president-constitution-conviction
Apr 15, 2024 - Published April 15, 2024 Updated May 30, 2024 3:04 PM PT. WASHINGTON -. Donald Trump became the first former president to be convicted
of felony crimes. A New York jury on Wednesday found him ...
COULD TRUMP BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER BEING CONVICTED OF A CRIME?
YES.
THERE'S NOTHING IN THE CONSTITUTION OR FEDERAL LAW THAT PREVENTS A FELON FROM HOLDING THE NATION'S HIGHEST OFFICE.