From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Trump Never A Convicted Felon
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 12:17:17 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2024-12-18 20:42, AlleyCat wrote:
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> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 19:58:40 -0800, Alan says...
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>> On 2024-12-18 19:35, AlleyCat wrote:
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>>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 19:07:25 -0800, Alan says...
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>>>> And he was convicted of felonies.
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>>> Doesn't make him a felon untilllll...
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>>> The judge hasn't entered the JUDGMENT OF GUILT yet, so no... CERTAINLY not a "convicted felon".
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>> There is no such thing in NY State law.
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> Yes, there is... it may not be called the EXACT same thing, but I bet there IS something in the law that "echoes" "Judgment of Guilt".
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> Sentencing? Is there nothing in NY law about sentencing?
There is. And I quoted the NY Courts page that EXPLICITLY STATES that it
takes place AFTER conviction:
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> What is that called?
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> I bet you anything there IS something in the law that describes the procedure for making the judgment official and then sentencing occurs, so...
'The report is made after the conviction and before the date for
Sentencing in felony and serious misdemeanor cases.'
<https://www.nycourts.gov/courthelp/criminal/preSentenceReport.shtml>
And:
Decision and order, December 16, 2024:
'To evaluate each of those claims, it is important to understand the
context of the unofficial acts for which Defendant [Trump] stands convicted'
'which formed the basis for 11 of the 34 counts he [Trump] was convicted of'
<https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFs/press/PDFs/CPL330.30Dec.pdf>
So if your claim is that he has to "enter a judgment of guilt" before
Trump is actually convicted, those quotes disprove you.