From: Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Trump Sues Newspaper Over Election Interference
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 17:09:03 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 12/19/2024 2:55 PM, Siri Cruise wrote:
> NoBody wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Dec 2024 08:01:01 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
>> <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/18/2024 4:15 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 11:30:51 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
>>>> <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/17/2024 10:48 AM, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pure election interference, JUST like 2016.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was election interference, plain and simple. Falsifying polls
>>>>>> is the same as telling people they don't need to vote, because
>>>>>> your candidate is too
>>>>>> far behind to win.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is just plain, fucking stupid. There is no way the poll was
>>>>> falsified.
>>>>
>>>> Did the poll's author ever explain what went wrong with her "poll"
>>>> that resulted in it being completely out of line with the state's
>>>> actual results?
>>>
>>> It's called an outlier. It's supposed to happen a small portion of the
>>> time. Pollsters who throw away outliers are engaging in a bad practice
>>> called herding.
>>>
>>> https://www.natesilver.net/p/trust-a-pollster-more-when-it-publishes
>>
>> So the answer is "no".
>>
>> You should have just said that instead of trying to justify it.
>>
>> Â What are the odds of the historically accurate poll being completely
>> out of whack only several days before the election?
>>
>> Her lack of explanation of the flaws is itself an explanation cause a
>> credible pollster would go back and see what went wrong.
>>
>
> Where is 'election interference' a tort in Illinois law or US Code?
Trump sued under the Iowa Consumer Fraud Act. The claimed damages are
"he need[ed] to expend extensive time and resources, including direct
federal campaign expenditures, to mitigate and counteract the harms of
the Defendants' conduct."
Because the law limits damages to natural persons, even assuming Trump
can make his case (he can't), he would then have to show what time and
money he personally spent as a result of the poll (his campaign is not a
natural person). I'm not sure he can even show any expenditures his
campaign made in response to the poll.
Yet another reason why this lawsuit is garbage.