From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: STILL Nothing on Felon
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 22:00:27 -0600
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
Since gay bunny Baker wants to play the bullshit liberal semantics game, I'll oblige him this time, even though I've ALREADY shown him synonyms for
"Judgment of Guilt", while NEVER saying that "Judgment of Guilt" was the "legal" term for what Merchan will do before sentencing ON sentencing day.
Hence the "quotation marks", moron.
"Judgment of Guilt"
same as
"Adjudication of Guilt"
Look it up, faggot. Right below "conviction". Then read the article below.
http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3CMPG.41cd6040d243ea4498b151%40news.eternal-september.org%3E
Hell, I think I've even called it adjudication in this thread before.
"It's part of the adjudication (judgment) process." - Mon, 11 Nov 2024
Well... looky thar.
Adjudication = Judgment
Rubenfeld emphasized that TRUMP IS NOT YET A CONVICTED FELON BECAUSE THE JUDGE HAS NOT ENTERED A JUDGMENT OF GUILT. He explained THAT IN NEW YORK,
this judgment is expected to be entered on July 11, the same day as Trump's sentencing.
LOL
Faggot loses.... again!
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If a person enters a guilty plea, no contest plea, or is found guilty at trial to a crime, a judge must render a FINAL JUDGMENT regarding the
person's guilt.
Subject to certain statutory limitations, a judge may either ADJUDICATE A PERSON GUILTY or withhold ADJUDICATION OF GUILT.
If a judge ADJUDICATE A PERSON GUILTY, they THEN are considered to have been FORMALLY convicted of the crime. And in the case of a person ADJUDICATED
GUILTY OF A FELONY, the person is considered a "CONVICTED FELON."
However, if a judge withholds ADJUDICATION OF GUILT, the person AVOIDS BEING FORMALLY BRANDED A CONVICTED CRIMINAL, the consequent loss of civil
rights, and being subject to other collateral consequences triggered when a person is adjudicated guilty.
Withholding ADJUDICATION OF GUILT: (Which Merchan might do to keep the process going when they can't actually have an Adjudication of Guilt, while
Trump is President)
Unfortunately, while the court system and most lay persons do not consider a judgment withholding ADJUDICATION OF GUILT to be a conviction, it is
still considered a conviction for statutory purposes.
Which begs the question, what is the benefit of having ADJUDICATION OF GUILT withheld if you are still legally considered to have been convicted of
the offense?
Statutory Limitations to Withholding ADJUDICATION OF GUILT
While there is no limitation on a judge's ability to adjudicate a person guilty of a crime, a judge may only withhold ADJUDICATION OF GUILT if the
judge believes the person is unlikely to engage in future criminal conduct and that the ends of justice and the welfare of society will be protected
by doing so.
However, the judge's ability to withhold ADJUDICATION OF GUILT is statutory limited by the degree of felony a person is charged with and the person's
prior criminal record.