From: Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Trump Sues Newspaper Over Election Interference
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2024 08:19:48 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 12/23/2024 3:59 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 07:44:55 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
> <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 12/22/2024 6:43 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Sat, 21 Dec 2024 08:02:30 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
>>> <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/21/2024 6:56 AM, NoBody wrote:
>>
>>>> But assuming for the sake of argument she is negligent, the First
>>>> Amendment protects her because negligence does not establish fraud.
>>>
>>> Once again, if she knowingly published a poll with a known bad
>>> methodology (as you had noted, she had the same issue in the past)
>>> it's fraud. That's what discovery is for.
>>
>> Again, she was right in 2016 and 2020. There was no reason for her to
>> believe her methodology was wrong.
>
> When the result was completely out of bed, that's a clear indicator
> her methodology was wrong. A responsible pollster would have avoided
> publishing the poll without understanding the problem.
In 2016 and 2020 she was an outlier (different than the other polls).
Was that a clear indicator she was wrong? Should she have avoided
publishing without understanding the problem?
But, let's assume for the sake of argument you are right and she should
have understood there was a problem and not published. Because she did
not believe there was a problem, she is only negligent, not fraudulent.
Under those circumstances, her decision to publish is protected by the
First Amendment.