From: Josh Rosenbluth <noway@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Trump Sues Newspaper Over Election Interference
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2024 07:20:34 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 12/24/2024 4:08 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 08:18:12 -0800, Josh Rosenbluth
> <noway@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
>> On 12/23/2024 5:59 AM, Siri Cruise wrote:
>>> NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 07:27:59 -0800, Siri Cruise
>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> NoBody wrote:
>>>>>> Once again, if she knowingly published a poll with a known bad
>>>>>> methodology (as you had noted, she had the same issue in the past)
>>>>>> it's fraud. That's what discovery is for.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what if it is a fraud? First amendment, sunshine.
>>>>
>>>> First Amendment doesn't cover fraud with malicious intent, dimbulb.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Who did she take money from?
>>>
>>> Civil Code 3294. (3) âFraudâ means an intentional misrepresentation,
>>> deceit, or concealment of a material fact known to the defendant with
>>> the intention on the part of the defendant of thereby depriving a person
>>> of property or legal rights or otherwise causing injury.
>>
>> Excellent point! Even if Selzer acted fraudulently, Trump has to show
>> the poll caused him to lose money even though he didn't pay for the poll.
>
> "the intention on the part of the defendant of thereby depriving a
> person of property or legal rights or otherwise causing injury."
>
> That is not limited to money.
> What is the matter with you two?
Siri quoted California law. Trump's lawsuit is in Iowa where the law states:
"A consumer who suffers an ascertainable loss of money or property as
the result of a prohibited practice or act in violation of this chapter
may bring an action at law to recover actual damages."
https://www.legis.iowa.gov/docs/code/714H.pdf