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Subject: Re: Pardon Every Last One of Them
From: Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com>
Organization: ViperNews - www.vipernews.com
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 18:43:57 +0000

Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
news:67813cae$0$1895508$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com: 

> In article <XnsB263563B5F61D629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com 
> says...
>> 
>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:67810ad0$0$1895501
>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>> 
>> > In article <XnsB262D3DE7178E629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>> > says...
>> >> 
>> >> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> >> news:678062bf$0$2789$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com: 
>> >> 
>> >> > In article <vlpkfj$3j1gc$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
>> >> > says... 
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> On 2025-01-09 14:59, Skeeter wrote:
>> >> >> > In article <vlp99s$3gfij$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com 
>> says...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On 2025-01-09 11:44, Pierre Delecto wrote:
>> >> >> >>> On 1/9/2025 1:26 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> >> >> >>>> Pierre Delecto <romneysrhinoblaster@delecto.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >>>> news:vlonlo $3cf82$1@dont-email.me:
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> On 1/9/2025 9:24 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>> >> >> >>>>>> news:vloj9r$3cfkd$2@dont-email.me:
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> On 2025-01-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 16:47, pothead wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmcoi$2sp2o$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-
>> uh@nope.com
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> says... 
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 09:27, Skeeter wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmaia$2sa75$1@dont-email.me>,
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 05:53, pothead wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: 
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:49:56 -0800, Siri Cruise
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead wrote:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone committed a serious crime of
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual violence, they should pay the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> standard penalty 
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before release. 
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree no crimes were committed?
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were the "crimes" worthy of the manhunt for
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these people and did the punishment match the
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "crimes"? 
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the vast majority of the people convicted,
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> no 
>> way.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some were simply wandering around outside the 
>> capitol
>> >> >> >>>> building.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others were let in by police and escorted around
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the building. 
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who committed acts of violence,
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> destruction of property and who were given due
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> process are a different situation. 
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Give an example of someone who was convicted
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "simply for wandering around outside"?
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> And no rioters were "let in and escorted around
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the building". 
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy in to these bullshit narratives?
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy into the lies? Were you there?
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't buy into anything.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>> Extraordinary claims require support.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>> Something you never provide.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> I don't waste my time with these libby Nimrods and
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> their demands. 
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> Oh, just to shut the libbys upone more time:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/MGjRn0TWE0Q?si=MvTgeMACRZNS-Cy8>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>> You should read before you post...
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>> ...assuming you know HOW to read:
>> >> >> >>>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>> 'Available evidence rebuts Fox News host Tucker
>> >> >> >>>>>>>> Carlson's claim that Capitol Police officers acted as
>> >> >> >>>>>>>> "tour guides" for "QAnon Shaman" Jacob Chansley during
>> >> >> >>>>>>>> the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.' 
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> Try watching the video and judge for yourself instead
>> >> >> >>>>>>> of lapping up the spin the left wing media station is
>> >> >> >>>>>>> feeding you. Of course his plea agreement says things
>> >> >> >>>>>>> to boost the prosecutor's side of the story. The idea
>> >> >> >>>>>>> is to save one's skin. 
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> Anyway there are many more hours of video that the 
>> committee
>> >> >> >>>>>>> tried to hide that was released AFTER that particular
>> >> >> >>>>>>> one 
>> and
>> >> >> >>>>>>> there is no 
>> >> >> >>>> doubt
>> >> >> >>>>>>> that the police stood down for whatever reason.
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>> Oh, except that officer who murdered Ashley Babbitt.
>> >> >> >>>>>>> He got a promotion for his "work".
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> Trump Says Jan. 6 Was an Insurrection
>> >> >> >>>>>> FEBRUARY 8, 2024
>> >> >> >>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/49af2nzt
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> Fox News calls it an insurrection:
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> Senate holds hearing on Capitol insurrection
>> >> >> >>>>>> Feb 23
>> >> >> >>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/wa8d5hh3
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> Mich McConnell calls it an insurrection:
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> "This failed insurrection only underscores
>> >> >> >>>>>> how crucial the task before us is for our
>> >> >> >>>>>> republic."
>> >> >> >>>>>> Mitch McConnell, Jan. 6, 2021
>> >> >> >>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/35cxm3zv
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Suddenly, and conveniently, you now beleive Trump, Fox
>> >> >> >>>>> and McConnell. 
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>      And suddenly you realize that Trump LIES.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Then Trump must have lied when he said said Jan. 6 was an
>> >> >> >>> insurrection. 
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "statement against interest": look it up.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>>      Why did you vote for such a brazen liar?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Because Harris was/is that bad.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Worse than a convicted felon who stole classified documents?
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > Like Joe did? Trump didn't "steal" anything.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> Yes, he really did.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> They recovered hundreds and hundreds of classified documents
>> >> >> that 
>> he 
>> >> >> DELIBERATELY took.
>> >> > 
>> >> > No, no theft at all. The issue was he refused to return some.
>> >> > 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >>     If he had a right to take them
>> >> why did he give them back?
>> > 
>> > He didn't. 
>> 
>> 
>>       Wrong. 
>> 
>> 
>> "After months of stonewalling by the former 
>> president, Trump?s representatives finally 
>> turned over 15 boxes of records in January 
>> 2022, nearly a year after he had left the 
>> White House. To their alarm, NARA officials 
>> discovered that the boxes contained 197 
>> documents with classified markings, 
>> including 92 marked as secret, and 25 marked 
>> as top secret."
>> https://www.voanews.com/a/the-trump-documents-case-what-you-need-to-
>> know/7139762.html
>> 
>> 
>> "January 17, 2022: Trump turns over 15 boxes 
>> to the National Archives. The boxes are found 
>> to contain 197 documents with classified 
>> markings, including 69 marked confidential, 
>> 98 secret and 30 top secret. Some documents 
>> have markings suggesting they include 
>> information from highly sensitive human 
>> sources or the collection of electronic 
>> "signals" authorized by a court under the 
>> Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act."
>> https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2023/06/13/timeline-of-
>> classified-documents-case-against-trump
>> 
>> 
>> "Two of Trump?s aides returned 15 boxes 
>> of records to the National Archives eight 
>> months later, in January 2022. The Archives 
>> soon determined that 14 of the boxes 
>> contained classified documents and referred 
>> their discovery to the Justice Department, 
>> the indictment says."
>> https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-classified-documen
>> ts- investigation-timeline-rcna88620
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > They raided his place and took them. Stop being stupid.
>> 
>> 
>> You know nothing about this issue. 
> 
> He stole nothing. 
> 


    Then why did he return them 
when accused of stealing them?