From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Pardon Every Last One of Them
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 13:44:08 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-01-10 13:17, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <XnsB263803A24DA0629555@185.151.15.190>, noemail@aol.com
> says...
>>
>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>> news:67813cae$0$1895508$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>
>>> In article <XnsB263563B5F61D629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:67810ad0$0$1895501
>>>> $882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>
>>>>> In article <XnsB262D3DE7178E629555@185.151.15.160>, noemail@aol.com
>>>>> says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:678062bf$0$2789$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In article <vlpkfj$3j1gc$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 14:59, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <vlp99s$3gfij$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 11:44, Pierre Delecto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/2025 1:26 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre Delecto <romneysrhinoblaster@delecto.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vlonlo $3cf82$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/2025 9:24 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vloj9r$3cfkd$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 16:47, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmcoi$2sp2o$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-
>>>> uh@nope.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 09:27, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmaia$2sa75$1@dont-email.me>,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 05:53, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:49:56 -0800, Siri Cruise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone committed a serious crime of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual violence, they should pay the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> standard penalty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree no crimes were committed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were the "crimes" worthy of the manhunt for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these people and did the punishment match the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "crimes"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the vast majority of the people convicted,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>> way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some were simply wandering around outside the
>>>> capitol
>>>>>>>>>>>> building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others were let in by police and escorted around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who committed acts of violence,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> destruction of property and who were given due
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> process are a different situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give an example of someone who was convicted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "simply for wandering around outside"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And no rioters were "let in and escorted around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the building".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy in to these bullshit narratives?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy into the lies? Were you there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't buy into anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extraordinary claims require support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something you never provide.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't waste my time with these libby Nimrods and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their demands.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, just to shut the libbys upone more time:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/MGjRn0TWE0Q?si=MvTgeMACRZNS-Cy8>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should read before you post...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...assuming you know HOW to read:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Available evidence rebuts Fox News host Tucker
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlson's claim that Capitol Police officers acted as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "tour guides" for "QAnon Shaman" Jacob Chansley during
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try watching the video and judge for yourself instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of lapping up the spin the left wing media station is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feeding you. Of course his plea agreement says things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to boost the prosecutor's side of the story. The idea
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is to save one's skin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway there are many more hours of video that the
>>>> committee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tried to hide that was released AFTER that particular
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the police stood down for whatever reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, except that officer who murdered Ashley Babbitt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He got a promotion for his "work".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump Says Jan. 6 Was an Insurrection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FEBRUARY 8, 2024
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/49af2nzt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fox News calls it an insurrection:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate holds hearing on Capitol insurrection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 23
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/wa8d5hh3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mich McConnell calls it an insurrection:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "This failed insurrection only underscores
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how crucial the task before us is for our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> republic."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitch McConnell, Jan. 6, 2021
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/35cxm3zv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suddenly, and conveniently, you now beleive Trump, Fox
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and McConnell.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Â Â Â And suddenly you realize that Trump LIES.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then Trump must have lied when he said said Jan. 6 was an
>>>>>>>>>>> insurrection.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "statement against interest": look it up.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Â Â Â Why did you vote for such a brazen liar?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Because Harris was/is that bad.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Worse than a convicted felon who stole classified documents?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like Joe did? Trump didn't "steal" anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, he really did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They recovered hundreds and hundreds of classified documents
>>>>>>>> that
>>>> he
>>>>>>>> DELIBERATELY took.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, no theft at all. The issue was he refused to return some.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If he had a right to take them
>>>>>> why did he give them back?
>>>>>
>>>>> He didn't.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wrong.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "After months of stonewalling by the former
>>>> president, Trump?s representatives finally
>>>> turned over 15 boxes of records in January
>>>> 2022, nearly a year after he had left the
>>>> White House. To their alarm, NARA officials
>>>> discovered that the boxes contained 197
>>>> documents with classified markings,
>>>> including 92 marked as secret, and 25 marked
>>>> as top secret."
>>>> https://www.voanews.com/a/the-trump-documents-case-what-you-need-to-
>>>> know/7139762.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "January 17, 2022: Trump turns over 15 boxes
>>>> to the National Archives. The boxes are found
>>>> to contain 197 documents with classified
>>>> markings, including 69 marked confidential,
>>>> 98 secret and 30 top secret. Some documents
>>>> have markings suggesting they include
>>>> information from highly sensitive human
>>>> sources or the collection of electronic
>>>> "signals" authorized by a court under the
>>>> Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act."
>>>> https://ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/politics/2023/06/13/timeline-of-
>>>> classified-documents-case-against-trump
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Two of Trump?s aides returned 15 boxes
>>>> of records to the National Archives eight
>>>> months later, in January 2022. The Archives
>>>> soon determined that 14 of the boxes
>>>> contained classified documents and referred
>>>> their discovery to the Justice Department,
>>>> the indictment says."
>>>> https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-classified-documen
>>>> ts- investigation-timeline-rcna88620
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> They raided his place and took them. Stop being stupid.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You know nothing about this issue.
>>>
>>> He stole nothing.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Then why did he return them
>> when accused of stealing them?
>
> He didn't. They raided his place and took them.
He most certainly DID give back some of them.
Can't you read?
"January 17, 2022: Trump turns over 15 boxes to the National Archives."