From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Pardon Every Last One of Them
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 15:07:20 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-01-10 14:52, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vls63e$8671$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2025-01-10 13:55, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vls4e5$8672$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2025-01-10 03:57, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <vlq30r$3p6o6$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 15:59, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <vlpkfj$3j1gc$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 14:59, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <vlp99s$3gfij$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 11:44, Pierre Delecto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/2025 1:26 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre Delecto <romneysrhinoblaster@delecto.com> wrote in news:vlonlo
>>>>>>>>>>>> $3cf82$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/2025 9:24 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vloj9r$3cfkd$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 16:47, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmcoi$2sp2o$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 09:27, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmaia$2sa75$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 05:53, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:49:56 -0800, Siri Cruise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone committed a serious crime of actual violence,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they should pay the standard penalty before release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree no crimes were committed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were the "crimes" worthy of the manhunt for these people and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did the punishment match the "crimes"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the vast majority of the people convicted, no way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some were simply wandering around outside the capitol
>>>>>>>>>>>> building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others were let in by police and escorted around the building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who committed acts of violence, destruction of property
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and who were given due process are a different situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give an example of someone who was convicted "simply for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wandering around outside"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And no rioters were "let in and escorted around the building".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy in to these bullshit narratives?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy into the lies? Were you there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't buy into anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extraordinary claims require support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something you never provide.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't waste my time with these libby Nimrods and their demands.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, just to shut the libbys upone more time:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/MGjRn0TWE0Q?si=MvTgeMACRZNS-Cy8>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should read before you post...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...assuming you know HOW to read:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Available evidence rebuts Fox News host Tucker Carlson's claim that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol Police officers acted as "tour guides" for "QAnon Shaman"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacob Chansley during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try watching the video and judge for yourself instead of lapping up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the spin the left wing media station is feeding you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course his plea agreement says things to boost the prosecutor's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side of the story. The idea is to save one's skin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway there are many more hours of video that the committee tried to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hide that was released AFTER that particular one and there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the police stood down for whatever reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, except that officer who murdered Ashley Babbitt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He got a promotion for his "work".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump Says Jan. 6 Was an Insurrection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FEBRUARY 8, 2024
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/49af2nzt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fox News calls it an insurrection:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate holds hearing on Capitol insurrection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 23
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/wa8d5hh3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mich McConnell calls it an insurrection:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "This failed insurrection only underscores
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how crucial the task before us is for our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> republic."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitch McConnell, Jan. 6, 2021
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/35cxm3zv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suddenly, and conveniently, you now beleive Trump, Fox and McConnell.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Â Â Â And suddenly you realize that Trump LIES.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Then Trump must have lied when he said said Jan. 6 was an insurrection.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "statement against interest": look it up.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Â Â Â Why did you vote for such a brazen liar?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Because Harris was/is that bad.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Worse than a convicted felon who stole classified documents?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Like Joe did? Trump didn't "steal" anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, he really did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They recovered hundreds and hundreds of classified documents that he
>>>>>>>> DELIBERATELY took.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, no theft at all. The issue was he refused to return some.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And that makes it better...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...even assuming that's so...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...how, exactly?
>>>>>
>>>>> He stole nothing. That's the point.
>>>>
>>>> He deliberately took things that didn't belong to him.
>>>>
>>>> That is the literal definition of stealing:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> steal | stel |
>>>>
>>>> verb (past stole | stol |; past participle stolen | 'stol?n |)
>>>>
>>>> 1 [with object] take (another person's property) without permission or
>>>> legal right and without intending to return it:
>>>
>>> So did Biden. What's your point? How come Trump didn't get charged with
>>> anything?
>>
>> "intending".
>>
>> If I accidentally pick up the wrong phone and go home with it, that's
>> not stealing.
>
>
> No charges, nothing. Stop digging empty holes.
>
There were charges.
That is a fact, doofus.
A grand jury was empanelled and returned indictments:
<https://www.justice.gov/storage/US-v-Trump-Nauta-De-Oliveira-23-80101.pdf>