From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Pardon Every Last One of Them
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 15:08:41 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-01-10 14:55, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vls66n$8671$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2025-01-10 13:51, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vls341$7v2g$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:15, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <vlrjpi$55to$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 03:58, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <vlq32k$3p6o6$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 16:00, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <vlpkia$3j1gc$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 14:56, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlp7lf$3gfj7$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 05:34, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 16:47, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmcoi$2sp2o$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 09:27, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmaia$2sa75$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 05:53, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:49:56 -0800, Siri Cruise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone committed a serious crime of actual violence, they should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay the standard penalty before release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree no crimes were committed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were the "crimes" worthy of the manhunt for these people and did the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punishment match the "crimes"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the vast majority of the people convicted, no way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some were simply wandering around outside the capitol building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others were let in by police and escorted around the building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who committed acts of violence, destruction of property and who were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given due process are a different situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give an example of someone who was convicted "simply for wandering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around outside"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And no rioters were "let in and escorted around the building".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy in to these bullshit narratives?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy into the lies? Were you there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't buy into anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extraordinary claims require support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something you never provide.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't waste my time with these libby Nimrods and their demands.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, just to shut the libbys upone more time:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/MGjRn0TWE0Q?si=MvTgeMACRZNS-Cy8>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should read before you post...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...assuming you know HOW to read:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Available evidence rebuts Fox News host Tucker Carlson's claim that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol Police officers acted as "tour guides" for "QAnon Shaman" Jacob
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chansley during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try watching the video and judge for yourself instead of lapping up the spin
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the left wing media station is feeding you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you think there is a video that shows the police acting as "tour
>>>>>>>>>>>> guides", then provide a link AND a time index.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course his plea agreement says things to boost the prosecutor's side of the story.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is to save one's skin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway there are many more hours of video that the committee tried to hide that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was released AFTER that particular one and there is no doubt that the police stood down
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for whatever reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Show it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, except that officer who murdered Ashley Babbitt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> She was going through the last door to where legislators were sheltering
>>>>>>>>>>>> and was told multiple times to get back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He got a promotion for his "work".
>>>>>>>>>>>> As your kind likes to say when innocent black people get shot:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "She should have complied".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> She was murdered.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If this were any other person on any other day, breaking in through a
>>>>>>>>>> window, you'd say the killing was justified.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope. I saw the footage.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Great!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Then you can point me to a video and a timecode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I saw what I saw. There were big bad looking men right next to her but
>>>>>>> they chose to murder her.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She was the one trying to come through the window...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and "someone else looked like they MIGHT be scarier" isn't much of an
>>>>>> argument.
>>>>>
>>>>> You didn't see the real video. She was murdered.
>>>>
>>>> So show it.
>>>
>>> I already told you, once you started snipping my posts I will not do any
>>> work for you.
>>
>> It's your work to do.
>
> Nope. You command nothing from me.
>>
>>>>
>>>> What I've seen is that the rioters were breaking out the windows in the
>>>> doors to the "Speakers Lobby"...
>>>
>>> A lot of people entered in a lot of places. She was murdered.
>>>>
>>>> ...where there were legislators sheltering...
>>>
>>> Bullshit.
>>
>> Nope.
>>
>> This video shows it:
>>
>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2021/01/08/ashli-babbitt-shooting-video-capitol/>
>
> Yea? I was right. She was murdered.
>>
>>>>
>>>> ...and Babbitt shot in the act of climbing through one of the broken out
>>>> window.
>>>
>>> She was murdered. No reason to shoot her. She was not a threat. How come
>>> no one else got shot?
>> No one else tried to come through the window.
>
> There were people right next to her. She was unarmed. If an unarmed
> crook get shot they call him a victim. Typical liberal.
Except for the unarmed black men...
>>
>> Again: if this was a black man coming through the window of someone's
>> store, you'd call it self-defense.
>
> She wasn't trying to break into a store you goofy fuck.
So if it had been a store, shooting here would have been justified?
Protection of property is justification for shooting, but protection of
persons is not?