From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Pardon Every Last One of Them
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 17:48:00 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-01-10 17:41, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vls99q$949p$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2025-01-10 14:55, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vls66n$8671$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:51, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <vls341$7v2g$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:15, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <vlrjpi$55to$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 03:58, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <vlq32k$3p6o6$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 16:00, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlpkia$3j1gc$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 14:56, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlp7lf$3gfj7$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 05:34, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 16:47, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmcoi$2sp2o$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 09:27, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmaia$2sa75$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 05:53, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:49:56 -0800, Siri Cruise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone committed a serious crime of actual violence, they should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay the standard penalty before release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree no crimes were committed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were the "crimes" worthy of the manhunt for these people and did the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punishment match the "crimes"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the vast majority of the people convicted, no way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some were simply wandering around outside the capitol building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others were let in by police and escorted around the building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who committed acts of violence, destruction of property and who were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given due process are a different situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give an example of someone who was convicted "simply for wandering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around outside"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And no rioters were "let in and escorted around the building".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy in to these bullshit narratives?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy into the lies? Were you there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't buy into anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extraordinary claims require support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something you never provide.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't waste my time with these libby Nimrods and their demands.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, just to shut the libbys upone more time:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/MGjRn0TWE0Q?si=MvTgeMACRZNS-Cy8>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should read before you post...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...assuming you know HOW to read:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Available evidence rebuts Fox News host Tucker Carlson's claim that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol Police officers acted as "tour guides" for "QAnon Shaman" Jacob
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chansley during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try watching the video and judge for yourself instead of lapping up the spin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the left wing media station is feeding you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you think there is a video that shows the police acting as "tour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guides", then provide a link AND a time index.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course his plea agreement says things to boost the prosecutor's side of the story.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is to save one's skin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway there are many more hours of video that the committee tried to hide that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was released AFTER that particular one and there is no doubt that the police stood down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for whatever reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Show it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, except that officer who murdered Ashley Babbitt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was going through the last door to where legislators were sheltering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and was told multiple times to get back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He got a promotion for his "work".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As your kind likes to say when innocent black people get shot:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "She should have complied".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was murdered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If this were any other person on any other day, breaking in through a
>>>>>>>>>>>> window, you'd say the killing was justified.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. I saw the footage.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Great!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Then you can point me to a video and a timecode.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I saw what I saw. There were big bad looking men right next to her but
>>>>>>>>> they chose to murder her.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> She was the one trying to come through the window...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...and "someone else looked like they MIGHT be scarier" isn't much of an
>>>>>>>> argument.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You didn't see the real video. She was murdered.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So show it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I already told you, once you started snipping my posts I will not do any
>>>>> work for you.
>>>>
>>>> It's your work to do.
>>>
>>> Nope. You command nothing from me.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I've seen is that the rioters were breaking out the windows in the
>>>>>> doors to the "Speakers Lobby"...
>>>>>
>>>>> A lot of people entered in a lot of places. She was murdered.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...where there were legislators sheltering...
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>> This video shows it:
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2021/01/08/ashli-babbitt-shooting-video-capitol/>
>>>
>>> Yea? I was right. She was murdered.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...and Babbitt shot in the act of climbing through one of the broken out
>>>>>> window.
>>>>>
>>>>> She was murdered. No reason to shoot her. She was not a threat. How come
>>>>> no one else got shot?
>>>> No one else tried to come through the window.
>>>
>>> There were people right next to her. She was unarmed. If an unarmed
>>> crook get shot they call him a victim. Typical liberal.
>>
>> Except for the unarmed black men...
>
> Who were they? Are they in the video?
>>
>>>>
>>>> Again: if this was a black man coming through the window of someone's
>>>> store, you'd call it self-defense.
>>>
>>> She wasn't trying to break into a store you goofy fuck.
>> So if it had been a store, shooting here would have been justified?
>
> I didn't say that you moron. I never justified anything. But you sure
> brought it up.
That's why I'm ASKING you.
>>
>> Protection of property is justification for shooting, but protection of
>> persons is not?
>
> What the hell are you even trying to say? What property? What persons?
> What black people? She was murdered.
She was breaking into an area where law enforcement was protecting people.
If she hadn't tried to climb through the window, she wouldn't have been
shot.