From: Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Pardon Every Last One of Them
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 20:19:51 -0700
Organization: UTB
In article <vlsikg$a24b$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>
> On 2025-01-10 17:41, Skeeter wrote:
> > In article <vls99q$949p$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>
> >> On 2025-01-10 14:55, Skeeter wrote:
> >>> In article <vls66n$8671$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2025-01-10 13:51, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>> In article <vls341$7v2g$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:15, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article <vlrjpi$55to$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 03:58, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> In article <vlq32k$3p6o6$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 16:00, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlpkia$3j1gc$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 14:56, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlp7lf$3gfj7$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 05:34, pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 16:47, pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmcoi$2sp2o$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 09:27, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmaia$2sa75$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 05:53, pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:49:56 -0800, Siri Cruise
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone committed a serious crime of actual violence, they should
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay the standard penalty before release.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree no crimes were committed?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were the "crimes" worthy of the manhunt for these people and did the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punishment match the "crimes"?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the vast majority of the people convicted, no way.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some were simply wandering around outside the capitol building.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others were let in by police and escorted around the building.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who committed acts of violence, destruction of property and who were
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given due process are a different situation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give an example of someone who was convicted "simply for wandering
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around outside"?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And no rioters were "let in and escorted around the building".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy in to these bullshit narratives?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy into the lies? Were you there?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't buy into anything.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extraordinary claims require support.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something you never provide.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't waste my time with these libby Nimrods and their demands.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, just to shut the libbys upone more time:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/MGjRn0TWE0Q?si=MvTgeMACRZNS-Cy8>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should read before you post...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...assuming you know HOW to read:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Available evidence rebuts Fox News host Tucker Carlson's claim that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol Police officers acted as "tour guides" for "QAnon Shaman" Jacob
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chansley during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.'
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try watching the video and judge for yourself instead of lapping up the spin
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the left wing media station is feeding you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you think there is a video that shows the police acting as "tour
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> guides", then provide a link AND a time index.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course his plea agreement says things to boost the prosecutor's side of the story.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is to save one's skin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway there are many more hours of video that the committee tried to hide that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was released AFTER that particular one and there is no doubt that the police stood down
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for whatever reason.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Show it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, except that officer who murdered Ashley Babbitt.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was going through the last door to where legislators were sheltering
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and was told multiple times to get back.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He got a promotion for his "work".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As your kind likes to say when innocent black people get shot:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "She should have complied".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> She was murdered.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> If this were any other person on any other day, breaking in through a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> window, you'd say the killing was justified.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Nope. I saw the footage.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Great!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Then you can point me to a video and a timecode.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I saw what I saw. There were big bad looking men right next to her but
> >>>>>>>>> they chose to murder her.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> She was the one trying to come through the window...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> ...and "someone else looked like they MIGHT be scarier" isn't much of an
> >>>>>>>> argument.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You didn't see the real video. She was murdered.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So show it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I already told you, once you started snipping my posts I will not do any
> >>>>> work for you.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's your work to do.
> >>>
> >>> Nope. You command nothing from me.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What I've seen is that the rioters were breaking out the windows in the
> >>>>>> doors to the "Speakers Lobby"...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A lot of people entered in a lot of places. She was murdered.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ...where there were legislators sheltering...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bullshit.
> >>>>
> >>>> Nope.
> >>>>
> >>>> This video shows it:
> >>>>
> >>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2021/01/08/ashli-babbitt-shooting-video-capitol/>
> >>>
> >>> Yea? I was right. She was murdered.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ...and Babbitt shot in the act of climbing through one of the broken out
> >>>>>> window.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> She was murdered. No reason to shoot her. She was not a threat. How come
> >>>>> no one else got shot?
> >>>> No one else tried to come through the window.
> >>>
> >>> There were people right next to her. She was unarmed. If an unarmed
> >>> crook get shot they call him a victim. Typical liberal.
> >>
> >> Except for the unarmed black men...
> >
> > Who were they? Are they in the video?
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> Again: if this was a black man coming through the window of someone's
> >>>> store, you'd call it self-defense.
> >>>
> >>> She wasn't trying to break into a store you goofy fuck.
> >> So if it had been a store, shooting here would have been justified?
> >
> > I didn't say that you moron. I never justified anything. But you sure
> > brought it up.
>
> That's why I'm ASKING you.
You tried to spin it around and put race into it.
>
> >>
> >> Protection of property is justification for shooting, but protection of
> >> persons is not?
> >
> > What the hell are you even trying to say? What property? What persons?
> > What black people? She was murdered.
> She was breaking into an area where law enforcement was protecting people.
Bullshit. They let them in.
>
> If she hadn't tried to climb through the window, she wouldn't have been
> shot.
Why just her?