From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Pardon Every Last One of Them
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 19:41:25 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-01-10 19:19, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vlsikg$a24b$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2025-01-10 17:41, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vls99q$949p$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2025-01-10 14:55, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <vls66n$8671$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:51, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <vls341$7v2g$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:15, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <vlrjpi$55to$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 03:58, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlq32k$3p6o6$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 16:00, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlpkia$3j1gc$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 14:56, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlp7lf$3gfj7$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 05:34, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 16:47, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmcoi$2sp2o$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 09:27, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmaia$2sa75$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 05:53, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:49:56 -0800, Siri Cruise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone committed a serious crime of actual violence, they should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay the standard penalty before release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree no crimes were committed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were the "crimes" worthy of the manhunt for these people and did the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punishment match the "crimes"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the vast majority of the people convicted, no way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some were simply wandering around outside the capitol building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others were let in by police and escorted around the building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who committed acts of violence, destruction of property and who were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given due process are a different situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give an example of someone who was convicted "simply for wandering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around outside"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And no rioters were "let in and escorted around the building".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy in to these bullshit narratives?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy into the lies? Were you there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't buy into anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extraordinary claims require support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something you never provide.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't waste my time with these libby Nimrods and their demands.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, just to shut the libbys upone more time:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/MGjRn0TWE0Q?si=MvTgeMACRZNS-Cy8>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should read before you post...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...assuming you know HOW to read:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Available evidence rebuts Fox News host Tucker Carlson's claim that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol Police officers acted as "tour guides" for "QAnon Shaman" Jacob
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chansley during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try watching the video and judge for yourself instead of lapping up the spin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the left wing media station is feeding you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you think there is a video that shows the police acting as "tour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guides", then provide a link AND a time index.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course his plea agreement says things to boost the prosecutor's side of the story.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is to save one's skin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway there are many more hours of video that the committee tried to hide that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was released AFTER that particular one and there is no doubt that the police stood down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for whatever reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Show it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, except that officer who murdered Ashley Babbitt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was going through the last door to where legislators were sheltering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and was told multiple times to get back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He got a promotion for his "work".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As your kind likes to say when innocent black people get shot:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "She should have complied".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was murdered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this were any other person on any other day, breaking in through a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window, you'd say the killing was justified.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. I saw the footage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you can point me to a video and a timecode.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I saw what I saw. There were big bad looking men right next to her but
>>>>>>>>>>> they chose to murder her.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> She was the one trying to come through the window...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...and "someone else looked like they MIGHT be scarier" isn't much of an
>>>>>>>>>> argument.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You didn't see the real video. She was murdered.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So show it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I already told you, once you started snipping my posts I will not do any
>>>>>>> work for you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's your work to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope. You command nothing from me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I've seen is that the rioters were breaking out the windows in the
>>>>>>>> doors to the "Speakers Lobby"...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A lot of people entered in a lot of places. She was murdered.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...where there were legislators sheltering...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This video shows it:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2021/01/08/ashli-babbitt-shooting-video-capitol/>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yea? I was right. She was murdered.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ...and Babbitt shot in the act of climbing through one of the broken out
>>>>>>>> window.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She was murdered. No reason to shoot her. She was not a threat. How come
>>>>>>> no one else got shot?
>>>>>> No one else tried to come through the window.
>>>>>
>>>>> There were people right next to her. She was unarmed. If an unarmed
>>>>> crook get shot they call him a victim. Typical liberal.
>>>>
>>>> Except for the unarmed black men...
>>>
>>> Who were they? Are they in the video?
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again: if this was a black man coming through the window of someone's
>>>>>> store, you'd call it self-defense.
>>>>>
>>>>> She wasn't trying to break into a store you goofy fuck.
>>>> So if it had been a store, shooting here would have been justified?
>>>
>>> I didn't say that you moron. I never justified anything. But you sure
>>> brought it up.
>>
>> That's why I'm ASKING you.
>
> You tried to spin it around and put race into it.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Protection of property is justification for shooting, but protection of
>>>> persons is not?
>>>
>>> What the hell are you even trying to say? What property? What persons?
>>> What black people? She was murdered.
>> She was breaking into an area where law enforcement was protecting people.
>
> Bullshit. They let them in.
They weren't letting them in to the "Speaker Lobby".
The doors were barricaded and the mob was breaking the windows to get
through.
>>
>> If she hadn't tried to climb through the window, she wouldn't have been
>> shot.
>
>
> Why just her?
She was the one climbing through.
>