From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Pardon Every Last One of Them
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 12:30:39 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-01-11 11:06, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vluc42$ni31$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2025-01-11 03:26, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vlso0f$f2dr$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2025-01-10 19:18, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <vlsiib$a24b$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 17:43, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <vls978$949p$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 14:52, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <vls63e$8671$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:55, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vls4e5$8672$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 03:57, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlq30r$3p6o6$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 15:59, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlpkfj$3j1gc$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 14:59, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlp99s$3gfij$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 11:44, Pierre Delecto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/2025 1:26 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre Delecto <romneysrhinoblaster@delecto.com> wrote in news:vlonlo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $3cf82$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/2025 9:24 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vloj9r$3cfkd$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 16:47, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmcoi$2sp2o$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 09:27, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmaia$2sa75$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 05:53, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:49:56 -0800, Siri Cruise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone committed a serious crime of actual violence,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they should pay the standard penalty before release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree no crimes were committed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were the "crimes" worthy of the manhunt for these people and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did the punishment match the "crimes"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the vast majority of the people convicted, no way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some were simply wandering around outside the capitol
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others were let in by police and escorted around the building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who committed acts of violence, destruction of property
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and who were given due process are a different situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give an example of someone who was convicted "simply for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wandering around outside"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And no rioters were "let in and escorted around the building".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy in to these bullshit narratives?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy into the lies? Were you there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't buy into anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extraordinary claims require support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something you never provide.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't waste my time with these libby Nimrods and their demands.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, just to shut the libbys upone more time:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/MGjRn0TWE0Q?si=MvTgeMACRZNS-Cy8>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should read before you post...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...assuming you know HOW to read:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Available evidence rebuts Fox News host Tucker Carlson's claim that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol Police officers acted as "tour guides" for "QAnon Shaman"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacob Chansley during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try watching the video and judge for yourself instead of lapping up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the spin the left wing media station is feeding you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course his plea agreement says things to boost the prosecutor's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side of the story. The idea is to save one's skin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway there are many more hours of video that the committee tried to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hide that was released AFTER that particular one and there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the police stood down for whatever reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, except that officer who murdered Ashley Babbitt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He got a promotion for his "work".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump Says Jan. 6 Was an Insurrection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FEBRUARY 8, 2024
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/49af2nzt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fox News calls it an insurrection:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate holds hearing on Capitol insurrection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 23
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/wa8d5hh3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mich McConnell calls it an insurrection:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "This failed insurrection only underscores
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how crucial the task before us is for our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> republic."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitch McConnell, Jan. 6, 2021
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/35cxm3zv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suddenly, and conveniently, you now beleive Trump, Fox and McConnell.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Â Â Â And suddenly you realize that Trump LIES.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Trump must have lied when he said said Jan. 6 was an insurrection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "statement against interest": look it up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Â Â Â Why did you vote for such a brazen liar?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because Harris was/is that bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Worse than a convicted felon who stole classified documents?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like Joe did? Trump didn't "steal" anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, he really did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They recovered hundreds and hundreds of classified documents that he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DELIBERATELY took.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, no theft at all. The issue was he refused to return some.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that makes it better...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...even assuming that's so...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...how, exactly?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> He stole nothing. That's the point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> He deliberately took things that didn't belong to him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is the literal definition of stealing:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> steal | stel |
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> verb (past stole | stol |; past participle stolen | 'stol?n |)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 [with object] take (another person's property) without permission or
>>>>>>>>>>>> legal right and without intending to return it:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So did Biden. What's your point? How come Trump didn't get charged with
>>>>>>>>>>> anything?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "intending".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If I accidentally pick up the wrong phone and go home with it, that's
>>>>>>>>>> not stealing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No charges, nothing. Stop digging empty holes.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There were charges.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That is a fact, doofus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yet nothing happened and he gets to have the documents back BWAAHAHAHA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But you agree that there were charges, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A grand jury was empanelled and returned indictments:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.justice.gov/storage/US-v-Trump-Nauta-De-Oliveira-23-80101.pdf>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and it's dead in the water.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Moving along to now.
>>>>>> You mean you're running away now.
>>>>>
>>>>> That don't mean shit if he wasn't convicted. There were no theft
>>>>> charges.
>>>>
>>>> Keep sliding those goalposts!
>>>
>>> Nothing happened. No charges and he gets the documents back.
>>
>> There were charges.
>>
>> You just admitted there were charges.
>
> No I didn't.
Yeah... ...you did. When you said "that don't mean shit if he wasn't
convicted".
That's acknowledgement that the charges exist.
> What charges?
These:
<https://www.justice.gov/storage/US-v-Trump-Nauta-De-Oliveira-23-80101.pdf>
> Why no court?
There was a court: the United States District Court for the Southern
District of Florida; presided over for Trump's case by Aileen Cannon.
> No theft.
He deliberately took what didn't belong to him.