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From: Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Pardon Every Last One of Them
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 15:31:22 -0700
Organization: UTB

In article <vlukdf$p3mk$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> 
> On 2025-01-11 11:06, Skeeter wrote:
> > In article <vluc42$ni31$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>
> >> On 2025-01-11 03:26, Skeeter wrote:
> >>> In article <vlso0f$f2dr$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2025-01-10 19:18, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>> In article <vlsiib$a24b$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2025-01-10 17:43, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article <vls978$949p$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 14:52, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> In article <vls63e$8671$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:55, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> In article <vls4e5$8672$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 03:57, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlq30r$3p6o6$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 15:59, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlpkfj$3j1gc$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 14:59, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlp99s$3gfij$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 11:44, Pierre Delecto wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/2025 1:26 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre Delecto <romneysrhinoblaster@delecto.com> wrote in news:vlonlo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $3cf82$1@dont-email.me:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/2025 9:24 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vloj9r$3cfkd$2@dont-email.me:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 16:47, pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmcoi$2sp2o$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 09:27, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmaia$2sa75$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 05:53, pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:49:56 -0800, Siri Cruise
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone committed a serious crime of actual violence,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they should pay the standard penalty before release.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree no crimes were committed?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were the "crimes" worthy of the manhunt for these people and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did the punishment match the "crimes"?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the vast majority of the people convicted, no way.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some were simply wandering around outside the capitol
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others were let in by police and escorted around the building.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who committed acts of violence, destruction of property
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and who were given due process are a different situation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give an example of someone who was convicted "simply for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wandering around outside"?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And no rioters were "let in and escorted around the building".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy in to these bullshit narratives?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy into the lies? Were you there?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't buy into anything.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extraordinary claims require support.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something you never provide.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't waste my time with these libby Nimrods and their demands.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, just to shut the libbys upone more time:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/MGjRn0TWE0Q?si=MvTgeMACRZNS-Cy8>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should read before you post...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...assuming you know HOW to read:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Available evidence rebuts Fox News host Tucker Carlson's claim that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol Police officers acted as "tour guides" for "QAnon Shaman"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacob Chansley during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.'
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try watching the video and judge for yourself instead of lapping up
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the spin the left wing media station is feeding you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course his plea agreement says things to boost the prosecutor's
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side of the story. The idea is to save one's skin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway there are many more hours of video that the committee tried to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hide that was released AFTER that particular one and there is no
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the police stood down for whatever reason.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, except that officer who murdered Ashley Babbitt.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He got a promotion for his "work".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump Says Jan. 6 Was an Insurrection
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FEBRUARY 8, 2024
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/49af2nzt
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fox News calls it an insurrection:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate holds hearing on Capitol insurrection
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 23
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/wa8d5hh3
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mich McConnell calls it an insurrection:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "This failed insurrection only underscores
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how crucial the task before us is for our
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> republic."
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitch McConnell, Jan. 6, 2021
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/35cxm3zv
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suddenly, and conveniently, you now beleive Trump, Fox and McConnell.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>              And suddenly you realize that Trump LIES.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Trump must have lied when he said said Jan. 6 was an insurrection.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "statement against interest": look it up.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>              Why did you vote for such a brazen liar?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because Harris was/is that bad.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Worse than a convicted felon who stole classified documents?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like Joe did? Trump didn't "steal" anything.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, he really did.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They recovered hundreds and hundreds of classified documents that he
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DELIBERATELY took.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, no theft at all. The issue was he refused to return some.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that makes it better...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...even assuming that's so...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...how, exactly?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> He stole nothing. That's the point.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> He deliberately took things that didn't belong to him.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> That is the literal definition of stealing:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> steal | stel |
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> verb (past stole | stol |; past participle stolen | 'stol?n |)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1 [with object] take (another person's property) without permission or
> >>>>>>>>>>>> legal right and without intending to return it:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> So did Biden. What's your point? How come Trump didn't get charged with
> >>>>>>>>>>> anything?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> "intending".
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> If I accidentally pick up the wrong phone and go home with it, that's
> >>>>>>>>>> not stealing.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> No charges, nothing. Stop digging empty holes.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There were charges.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That is a fact, doofus.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yet nothing happened and he gets to have the documents back  BWAAHAHAHA
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> But you agree that there were charges, right?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> A grand jury was empanelled and returned indictments:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> <https://www.justice.gov/storage/US-v-Trump-Nauta-De-Oliveira-23-80101.pdf>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and it's dead in the water.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Moving along to now.
> >>>>>> You mean you're running away now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That don't mean shit if he wasn't convicted. There were no theft
> >>>>> charges.
> >>>>
> >>>> Keep sliding those goalposts!
> >>>
> >>> Nothing happened. No charges and he gets the documents back.
> >>
> >> There were charges.
> >>
> >> You just admitted there were charges.
> > 
> > No I didn't.
> 
> Yeah... ...you did. When you said "that don't mean shit if he wasn't 
> convicted".
> 
> That's acknowledgement that the charges exist.
> 
> > What charges?
> 
> These:
> 
> <https://www.justice.gov/storage/US-v-Trump-Nauta-De-Oliveira-23-80101.pdf>
> 
> > Why no court? 
> 
> There was a court: the United States District Court for the Southern 
> District of Florida; presided over for Trump's case by Aileen Cannon.

No charges.
> 
> > No theft.
> 
> He deliberately took what didn't belong to him.


There were no theft charges.