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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Pardon Every Last One of Them
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 16:50:54 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2025-01-11 03:26, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vlsp95$f2dr$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2025-01-10 19:19, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vlsikg$a24b$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2025-01-10 17:41, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <vls99q$949p$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 14:55, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <vls66n$8671$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:51, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <vls341$7v2g$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:15, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlrjpi$55to$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 03:58, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlq32k$3p6o6$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 16:00, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlpkia$3j1gc$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 14:56, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlp7lf$3gfj7$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 05:34, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 16:47, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmcoi$2sp2o$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 09:27, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmaia$2sa75$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 05:53, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:49:56 -0800, Siri Cruise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone committed a serious crime of actual violence, they should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay the standard penalty before release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree no crimes were committed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were the "crimes" worthy of the manhunt for these people and did the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punishment match the "crimes"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the vast majority of the people convicted, no way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some were simply wandering around outside the capitol building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others were let in by police and escorted around the building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who committed acts of violence, destruction of property and who were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given due process are a different situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give an example of someone who was convicted "simply for wandering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around outside"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And no rioters were "let in and escorted around the building".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy in to these bullshit narratives?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy into the lies? Were you there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't buy into anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extraordinary claims require support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something you never provide.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't waste my time with these libby Nimrods and their demands.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, just to shut the libbys upone more time:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/MGjRn0TWE0Q?si=MvTgeMACRZNS-Cy8>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should read before you post...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...assuming you know HOW to read:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Available evidence rebuts Fox News host Tucker Carlson's claim that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol Police officers acted as "tour guides" for "QAnon Shaman" Jacob
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chansley during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try watching the video and judge for yourself instead of lapping up the spin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the left wing media station is feeding you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you think there is a video that shows the police acting as "tour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guides", then provide a link AND a time index.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course his plea agreement says things to boost the prosecutor's side of the story.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is to save one's skin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway there are many more hours of video that the committee tried to hide that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was released AFTER that particular one and there is no doubt that the police stood down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for whatever reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Show it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, except that officer who murdered Ashley Babbitt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was going through the last door to where legislators were sheltering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and was told multiple times to get back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He got a promotion for his "work".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As your kind likes to say when innocent black people get shot:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "She should have complied".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was murdered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this were any other person on any other day, breaking in through a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window, you'd say the killing was justified.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. I saw the footage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you can point me to a video and a timecode.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I saw what I saw. There were big bad looking men right next to her but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they chose to murder her.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> She was the one trying to come through the window...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...and "someone else looked like they MIGHT be scarier" isn't much of an
>>>>>>>>>>>> argument.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't see the real video. She was murdered.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So show it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I already told you, once you started snipping my posts I will not do any
>>>>>>>>> work for you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's your work to do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope. You command nothing from me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What I've seen is that the rioters were breaking out the windows in the
>>>>>>>>>> doors to the "Speakers Lobby"...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A lot of people entered in a lot of places. She was murdered.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...where there were legislators sheltering...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This video shows it:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2021/01/08/ashli-babbitt-shooting-video-capitol/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yea? I was right. She was murdered.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ...and Babbitt shot in the act of climbing through one of the broken out
>>>>>>>>>> window.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> She was murdered. No reason to shoot her. She was not a threat. How come
>>>>>>>>> no one else got shot?
>>>>>>>> No one else tried to come through the window.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There were people right next to her. She was unarmed. If an unarmed
>>>>>>> crook get shot they call him a victim. Typical liberal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Except for the unarmed black men...
>>>>>
>>>>> Who were they? Are they in the video?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Again: if this was a black man coming through the window of someone's
>>>>>>>> store, you'd call it self-defense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She wasn't trying to break into a store you goofy fuck.
>>>>>> So if it had been a store, shooting here would have been justified?
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't say that you moron. I never justified anything. But you sure
>>>>> brought it up.
>>>>
>>>> That's why I'm ASKING you.
>>>
>>> You tried to spin it around and put race into it.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Protection of property is justification for shooting, but protection of
>>>>>> persons is not?
>>>>>
>>>>> What the hell are you even trying to say? What property? What persons?
>>>>> What black people? She was murdered.
>>>> She was breaking into an area where law enforcement was protecting people.
>>>
>>> Bullshit. They let them in.
>>
>> They weren't letting them in to the "Speaker Lobby".
>>
>> The doors were barricaded and the mob was breaking the windows to get
>> through.
>>
>>>>
>>>> If she hadn't tried to climb through the window, she wouldn't have been
>>>> shot.
>>>
>>>
>>> Why just her?
>>
>> She was the one climbing through.
>>
>>>
> 
> Unarmed.

So?

That's never bothered you before.