From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Pardon Every Last One of Them
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 19:45:28 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-01-11 18:17, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vlv349$rdh9$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2025-01-11 14:31, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vlukdf$p3mk$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2025-01-11 11:06, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <vluc42$ni31$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-01-11 03:26, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <vlso0f$f2dr$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 19:18, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <vlsiib$a24b$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 17:43, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vls978$949p$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 14:52, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vls63e$8671$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:55, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vls4e5$8672$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 03:57, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlq30r$3p6o6$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 15:59, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlpkfj$3j1gc$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 14:59, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlp99s$3gfij$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 11:44, Pierre Delecto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/2025 1:26 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre Delecto <romneysrhinoblaster@delecto.com> wrote in news:vlonlo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $3cf82$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/2025 9:24 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vloj9r$3cfkd$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 16:47, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmcoi$2sp2o$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 09:27, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmaia$2sa75$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 05:53, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:49:56 -0800, Siri Cruise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone committed a serious crime of actual violence,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they should pay the standard penalty before release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree no crimes were committed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were the "crimes" worthy of the manhunt for these people and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did the punishment match the "crimes"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the vast majority of the people convicted, no way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some were simply wandering around outside the capitol
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others were let in by police and escorted around the building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who committed acts of violence, destruction of property
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and who were given due process are a different situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give an example of someone who was convicted "simply for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wandering around outside"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And no rioters were "let in and escorted around the building".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy in to these bullshit narratives?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy into the lies? Were you there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't buy into anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extraordinary claims require support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something you never provide.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't waste my time with these libby Nimrods and their demands.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, just to shut the libbys upone more time:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/MGjRn0TWE0Q?si=MvTgeMACRZNS-Cy8>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should read before you post...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...assuming you know HOW to read:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Available evidence rebuts Fox News host Tucker Carlson's claim that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol Police officers acted as "tour guides" for "QAnon Shaman"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacob Chansley during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try watching the video and judge for yourself instead of lapping up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the spin the left wing media station is feeding you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course his plea agreement says things to boost the prosecutor's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side of the story. The idea is to save one's skin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway there are many more hours of video that the committee tried to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hide that was released AFTER that particular one and there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the police stood down for whatever reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, except that officer who murdered Ashley Babbitt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He got a promotion for his "work".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump Says Jan. 6 Was an Insurrection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FEBRUARY 8, 2024
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/49af2nzt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fox News calls it an insurrection:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate holds hearing on Capitol insurrection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 23
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/wa8d5hh3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mich McConnell calls it an insurrection:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "This failed insurrection only underscores
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how crucial the task before us is for our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> republic."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitch McConnell, Jan. 6, 2021
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/35cxm3zv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suddenly, and conveniently, you now beleive Trump, Fox and McConnell.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Â Â Â And suddenly you realize that Trump LIES.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Trump must have lied when he said said Jan. 6 was an insurrection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "statement against interest": look it up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Â Â Â Why did you vote for such a brazen liar?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because Harris was/is that bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Worse than a convicted felon who stole classified documents?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like Joe did? Trump didn't "steal" anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, he really did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They recovered hundreds and hundreds of classified documents that he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DELIBERATELY took.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, no theft at all. The issue was he refused to return some.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that makes it better...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...even assuming that's so...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...how, exactly?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He stole nothing. That's the point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He deliberately took things that didn't belong to him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is the literal definition of stealing:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steal | stel |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verb (past stole | stol |; past participle stolen | 'stol?n |)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 [with object] take (another person's property) without permission or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legal right and without intending to return it:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So did Biden. What's your point? How come Trump didn't get charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "intending".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I accidentally pick up the wrong phone and go home with it, that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not stealing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No charges, nothing. Stop digging empty holes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There were charges.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That is a fact, doofus.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yet nothing happened and he gets to have the documents back BWAAHAHAHA
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But you agree that there were charges, right?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A grand jury was empanelled and returned indictments:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.justice.gov/storage/US-v-Trump-Nauta-De-Oliveira-23-80101.pdf>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and it's dead in the water.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Moving along to now.
>>>>>>>>>> You mean you're running away now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That don't mean shit if he wasn't convicted. There were no theft
>>>>>>>>> charges.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keep sliding those goalposts!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nothing happened. No charges and he gets the documents back.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There were charges.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You just admitted there were charges.
>>>>>
>>>>> No I didn't.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah... ...you did. When you said "that don't mean shit if he wasn't
>>>> convicted".
>>>>
>>>> That's acknowledgement that the charges exist.
>>>>
>>>>> What charges?
>>>>
>>>> These:
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.justice.gov/storage/US-v-Trump-Nauta-De-Oliveira-23-80101.pdf>
>>>>
>>>>> Why no court?
>>>>
>>>> There was a court: the United States District Court for the Southern
>>>> District of Florida; presided over for Trump's case by Aileen Cannon.
>>>
>>> No charges.
>>>>
>>
>> There WERE charges.
>>
>> You acknowledged as much.
>
> None. It's over.
>>
>>>>> No theft.
>>>>
>>>> He deliberately took what didn't belong to him.
>>>
>>>
>>> There were no theft charges.
>>
>> Are you saying there were no charges or not?
>
> Are you to stupid to find out? Nothing happened.
>
>
I agree the trial didn't complete...
...because I biased know-nothing judge, appointed by Trump protect him.