From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Pardon Every Last One of Them
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 19:46:56 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-01-11 18:18, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vlv3lf$rdh9$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2025-01-11 03:26, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vlsp95$f2dr$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2025-01-10 19:19, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <vlsikg$a24b$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 17:41, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <vls99q$949p$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 14:55, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <vls66n$8671$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:51, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vls341$7v2g$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:15, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlrjpi$55to$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 03:58, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlq32k$3p6o6$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 16:00, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlpkia$3j1gc$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 14:56, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlp7lf$3gfj7$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 05:34, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 16:47, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmcoi$2sp2o$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 09:27, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmaia$2sa75$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 05:53, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:49:56 -0800, Siri Cruise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone committed a serious crime of actual violence, they should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay the standard penalty before release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree no crimes were committed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were the "crimes" worthy of the manhunt for these people and did the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punishment match the "crimes"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the vast majority of the people convicted, no way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some were simply wandering around outside the capitol building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others were let in by police and escorted around the building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who committed acts of violence, destruction of property and who were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given due process are a different situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give an example of someone who was convicted "simply for wandering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around outside"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And no rioters were "let in and escorted around the building".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy in to these bullshit narratives?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy into the lies? Were you there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't buy into anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extraordinary claims require support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something you never provide.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't waste my time with these libby Nimrods and their demands.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, just to shut the libbys upone more time:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/MGjRn0TWE0Q?si=MvTgeMACRZNS-Cy8>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should read before you post...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...assuming you know HOW to read:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Available evidence rebuts Fox News host Tucker Carlson's claim that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol Police officers acted as "tour guides" for "QAnon Shaman" Jacob
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chansley during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try watching the video and judge for yourself instead of lapping up the spin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the left wing media station is feeding you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you think there is a video that shows the police acting as "tour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guides", then provide a link AND a time index.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course his plea agreement says things to boost the prosecutor's side of the story.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is to save one's skin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway there are many more hours of video that the committee tried to hide that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was released AFTER that particular one and there is no doubt that the police stood down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for whatever reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Show it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, except that officer who murdered Ashley Babbitt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was going through the last door to where legislators were sheltering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and was told multiple times to get back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He got a promotion for his "work".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As your kind likes to say when innocent black people get shot:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "She should have complied".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was murdered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this were any other person on any other day, breaking in through a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window, you'd say the killing was justified.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. I saw the footage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you can point me to a video and a timecode.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I saw what I saw. There were big bad looking men right next to her but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they chose to murder her.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was the one trying to come through the window...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...and "someone else looked like they MIGHT be scarier" isn't much of an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't see the real video. She was murdered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So show it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I already told you, once you started snipping my posts I will not do any
>>>>>>>>>>> work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's your work to do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nope. You command nothing from me.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What I've seen is that the rioters were breaking out the windows in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> doors to the "Speakers Lobby"...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A lot of people entered in a lot of places. She was murdered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...where there were legislators sheltering...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This video shows it:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2021/01/08/ashli-babbitt-shooting-video-capitol/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yea? I was right. She was murdered.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ...and Babbitt shot in the act of climbing through one of the broken out
>>>>>>>>>>>> window.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> She was murdered. No reason to shoot her. She was not a threat. How come
>>>>>>>>>>> no one else got shot?
>>>>>>>>>> No one else tried to come through the window.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There were people right next to her. She was unarmed. If an unarmed
>>>>>>>>> crook get shot they call him a victim. Typical liberal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Except for the unarmed black men...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who were they? Are they in the video?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Again: if this was a black man coming through the window of someone's
>>>>>>>>>> store, you'd call it self-defense.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> She wasn't trying to break into a store you goofy fuck.
>>>>>>>> So if it had been a store, shooting here would have been justified?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't say that you moron. I never justified anything. But you sure
>>>>>>> brought it up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's why I'm ASKING you.
>>>>>
>>>>> You tried to spin it around and put race into it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Protection of property is justification for shooting, but protection of
>>>>>>>> persons is not?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What the hell are you even trying to say? What property? What persons?
>>>>>>> What black people? She was murdered.
>>>>>> She was breaking into an area where law enforcement was protecting people.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit. They let them in.
>>>>
>>>> They weren't letting them in to the "Speaker Lobby".
>>>>
>>>> The doors were barricaded and the mob was breaking the windows to get
>>>> through.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If she hadn't tried to climb through the window, she wouldn't have been
>>>>>> shot.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Why just her?
>>>>
>>>> She was the one climbing through.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Unarmed.
>>
>> So?
>>
>> That's never bothered you before.
>
> Who have I shot stupid?
Not what I was talking about...