From: Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Pardon Every Last One of Them
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 14:40:10 -0700
Organization: UTB
In article <vlvdvg$10qqb$4@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>
> On 2025-01-11 18:18, Skeeter wrote:
> > In article <vlv3lf$rdh9$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>
> >> On 2025-01-11 03:26, Skeeter wrote:
> >>> In article <vlsp95$f2dr$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2025-01-10 19:19, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>> In article <vlsikg$a24b$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2025-01-10 17:41, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article <vls99q$949p$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 14:55, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> In article <vls66n$8671$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:51, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> In article <vls341$7v2g$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:15, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlrjpi$55to$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 03:58, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlq32k$3p6o6$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 16:00, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlpkia$3j1gc$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 14:56, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlp7lf$3gfj7$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 05:34, pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 16:47, pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmcoi$2sp2o$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 09:27, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmaia$2sa75$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 05:53, pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:49:56 -0800, Siri Cruise
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone committed a serious crime of actual violence, they should
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay the standard penalty before release.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree no crimes were committed?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were the "crimes" worthy of the manhunt for these people and did the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punishment match the "crimes"?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the vast majority of the people convicted, no way.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some were simply wandering around outside the capitol building.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others were let in by police and escorted around the building.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who committed acts of violence, destruction of property and who were
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given due process are a different situation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give an example of someone who was convicted "simply for wandering
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around outside"?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And no rioters were "let in and escorted around the building".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy in to these bullshit narratives?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy into the lies? Were you there?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't buy into anything.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extraordinary claims require support.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something you never provide.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't waste my time with these libby Nimrods and their demands.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, just to shut the libbys upone more time:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/MGjRn0TWE0Q?si=MvTgeMACRZNS-Cy8>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should read before you post...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...assuming you know HOW to read:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Available evidence rebuts Fox News host Tucker Carlson's claim that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol Police officers acted as "tour guides" for "QAnon Shaman" Jacob
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chansley during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.'
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try watching the video and judge for yourself instead of lapping up the spin
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the left wing media station is feeding you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you think there is a video that shows the police acting as "tour
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guides", then provide a link AND a time index.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course his plea agreement says things to boost the prosecutor's side of the story.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is to save one's skin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway there are many more hours of video that the committee tried to hide that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was released AFTER that particular one and there is no doubt that the police stood down
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for whatever reason.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Show it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, except that officer who murdered Ashley Babbitt.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was going through the last door to where legislators were sheltering
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and was told multiple times to get back.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He got a promotion for his "work".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As your kind likes to say when innocent black people get shot:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "She should have complied".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was murdered.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this were any other person on any other day, breaking in through a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window, you'd say the killing was justified.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. I saw the footage.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you can point me to a video and a timecode.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I saw what I saw. There were big bad looking men right next to her but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they chose to murder her.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was the one trying to come through the window...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...and "someone else looked like they MIGHT be scarier" isn't much of an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't see the real video. She was murdered.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So show it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I already told you, once you started snipping my posts I will not do any
> >>>>>>>>>>> work for you.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It's your work to do.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Nope. You command nothing from me.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> What I've seen is that the rioters were breaking out the windows in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>> doors to the "Speakers Lobby"...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> A lot of people entered in a lot of places. She was murdered.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ...where there were legislators sheltering...
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Nope.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> This video shows it:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2021/01/08/ashli-babbitt-shooting-video-capitol/>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Yea? I was right. She was murdered.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> ...and Babbitt shot in the act of climbing through one of the broken out
> >>>>>>>>>>>> window.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> She was murdered. No reason to shoot her. She was not a threat. How come
> >>>>>>>>>>> no one else got shot?
> >>>>>>>>>> No one else tried to come through the window.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> There were people right next to her. She was unarmed. If an unarmed
> >>>>>>>>> crook get shot they call him a victim. Typical liberal.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Except for the unarmed black men...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Who were they? Are they in the video?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Again: if this was a black man coming through the window of someone's
> >>>>>>>>>> store, you'd call it self-defense.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> She wasn't trying to break into a store you goofy fuck.
> >>>>>>>> So if it had been a store, shooting here would have been justified?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I didn't say that you moron. I never justified anything. But you sure
> >>>>>>> brought it up.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That's why I'm ASKING you.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You tried to spin it around and put race into it.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Protection of property is justification for shooting, but protection of
> >>>>>>>> persons is not?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> What the hell are you even trying to say? What property? What persons?
> >>>>>>> What black people? She was murdered.
> >>>>>> She was breaking into an area where law enforcement was protecting people.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bullshit. They let them in.
> >>>>
> >>>> They weren't letting them in to the "Speaker Lobby".
> >>>>
> >>>> The doors were barricaded and the mob was breaking the windows to get
> >>>> through.
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If she hadn't tried to climb through the window, she wouldn't have been
> >>>>>> shot.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why just her?
> >>>>
> >>>> She was the one climbing through.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>> Unarmed.
> >>
> >> So?
> >>
> >> That's never bothered you before.
> >
> > Who have I shot stupid?
>
> Not what I was talking about...
Then what the hell were you talking about?