From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Pardon Every Last One of Them
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 14:50:50 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-01-12 13:38, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vlvdso$10qqb$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2025-01-11 18:17, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vlv349$rdh9$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2025-01-11 14:31, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <vlukdf$p3mk$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-01-11 11:06, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <vluc42$ni31$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-11 03:26, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <vlso0f$f2dr$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 19:18, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlsiib$a24b$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 17:43, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vls978$949p$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 14:52, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vls63e$8671$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:55, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vls4e5$8672$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 03:57, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlq30r$3p6o6$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 15:59, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlpkfj$3j1gc$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 14:59, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlp99s$3gfij$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 11:44, Pierre Delecto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/2025 1:26 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre Delecto <romneysrhinoblaster@delecto.com> wrote in news:vlonlo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $3cf82$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/2025 9:24 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vloj9r$3cfkd$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 16:47, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmcoi$2sp2o$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 09:27, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmaia$2sa75$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 05:53, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:49:56 -0800, Siri Cruise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone committed a serious crime of actual violence,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they should pay the standard penalty before release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree no crimes were committed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were the "crimes" worthy of the manhunt for these people and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did the punishment match the "crimes"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the vast majority of the people convicted, no way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some were simply wandering around outside the capitol
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others were let in by police and escorted around the building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who committed acts of violence, destruction of property
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and who were given due process are a different situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give an example of someone who was convicted "simply for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wandering around outside"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And no rioters were "let in and escorted around the building".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy in to these bullshit narratives?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy into the lies? Were you there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't buy into anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extraordinary claims require support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something you never provide.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't waste my time with these libby Nimrods and their demands.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, just to shut the libbys upone more time:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/MGjRn0TWE0Q?si=MvTgeMACRZNS-Cy8>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should read before you post...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...assuming you know HOW to read:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Available evidence rebuts Fox News host Tucker Carlson's claim that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol Police officers acted as "tour guides" for "QAnon Shaman"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacob Chansley during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try watching the video and judge for yourself instead of lapping up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the spin the left wing media station is feeding you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course his plea agreement says things to boost the prosecutor's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side of the story. The idea is to save one's skin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway there are many more hours of video that the committee tried to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hide that was released AFTER that particular one and there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the police stood down for whatever reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, except that officer who murdered Ashley Babbitt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He got a promotion for his "work".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump Says Jan. 6 Was an Insurrection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FEBRUARY 8, 2024
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/49af2nzt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fox News calls it an insurrection:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate holds hearing on Capitol insurrection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 23
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/wa8d5hh3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mich McConnell calls it an insurrection:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "This failed insurrection only underscores
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how crucial the task before us is for our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> republic."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitch McConnell, Jan. 6, 2021
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/35cxm3zv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suddenly, and conveniently, you now beleive Trump, Fox and McConnell.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Â Â Â And suddenly you realize that Trump LIES.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Trump must have lied when he said said Jan. 6 was an insurrection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "statement against interest": look it up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Â Â Â Why did you vote for such a brazen liar?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because Harris was/is that bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Worse than a convicted felon who stole classified documents?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like Joe did? Trump didn't "steal" anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, he really did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They recovered hundreds and hundreds of classified documents that he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DELIBERATELY took.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, no theft at all. The issue was he refused to return some.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that makes it better...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...even assuming that's so...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...how, exactly?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He stole nothing. That's the point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He deliberately took things that didn't belong to him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is the literal definition of stealing:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steal | stel |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verb (past stole | stol |; past participle stolen | 'stol?n |)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 [with object] take (another person's property) without permission or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legal right and without intending to return it:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So did Biden. What's your point? How come Trump didn't get charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "intending".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I accidentally pick up the wrong phone and go home with it, that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not stealing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No charges, nothing. Stop digging empty holes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There were charges.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is a fact, doofus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet nothing happened and he gets to have the documents back BWAAHAHAHA
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But you agree that there were charges, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A grand jury was empanelled and returned indictments:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.justice.gov/storage/US-v-Trump-Nauta-De-Oliveira-23-80101.pdf>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's dead in the water.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moving along to now.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean you're running away now.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That don't mean shit if he wasn't convicted. There were no theft
>>>>>>>>>>> charges.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Keep sliding those goalposts!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nothing happened. No charges and he gets the documents back.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There were charges.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You just admitted there were charges.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No I didn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah... ...you did. When you said "that don't mean shit if he wasn't
>>>>>> convicted".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's acknowledgement that the charges exist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What charges?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.justice.gov/storage/US-v-Trump-Nauta-De-Oliveira-23-80101.pdf>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why no court?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There was a court: the United States District Court for the Southern
>>>>>> District of Florida; presided over for Trump's case by Aileen Cannon.
>>>>>
>>>>> No charges.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> There WERE charges.
>>>>
>>>> You acknowledged as much.
>>>
>>> None. It's over.
>>>>
>>>>>>> No theft.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He deliberately took what didn't belong to him.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> There were no theft charges.
>>>>
>>>> Are you saying there were no charges or not?
>>>
>>> Are you to stupid to find out? Nothing happened.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I agree the trial didn't complete...
>>
>> ...because I biased know-nothing judge, appointed by Trump protect him.
>
> You always have an excuse.
I don't have to have an excuse I have the facts.
> No charges.
Like the fact that there were charges.
> So far all thing to try and hurt
> him have failed.
Convicted felon.