From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Pardon Every Last One of Them
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 14:51:54 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-01-12 13:40, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vlvdvg$10qqb$4@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2025-01-11 18:18, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vlv3lf$rdh9$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2025-01-11 03:26, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <vlsp95$f2dr$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 19:19, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <vlsikg$a24b$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 17:41, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <vls99q$949p$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 14:55, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vls66n$8671$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:51, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vls341$7v2g$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:15, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlrjpi$55to$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 03:58, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlq32k$3p6o6$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 16:00, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlpkia$3j1gc$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 14:56, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlp7lf$3gfj7$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 05:34, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 16:47, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmcoi$2sp2o$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 09:27, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmaia$2sa75$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 05:53, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:49:56 -0800, Siri Cruise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone committed a serious crime of actual violence, they should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay the standard penalty before release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree no crimes were committed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were the "crimes" worthy of the manhunt for these people and did the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punishment match the "crimes"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the vast majority of the people convicted, no way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some were simply wandering around outside the capitol building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others were let in by police and escorted around the building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who committed acts of violence, destruction of property and who were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given due process are a different situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give an example of someone who was convicted "simply for wandering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around outside"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And no rioters were "let in and escorted around the building".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy in to these bullshit narratives?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy into the lies? Were you there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't buy into anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extraordinary claims require support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something you never provide.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't waste my time with these libby Nimrods and their demands.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, just to shut the libbys upone more time:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/MGjRn0TWE0Q?si=MvTgeMACRZNS-Cy8>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should read before you post...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...assuming you know HOW to read:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Available evidence rebuts Fox News host Tucker Carlson's claim that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol Police officers acted as "tour guides" for "QAnon Shaman" Jacob
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chansley during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try watching the video and judge for yourself instead of lapping up the spin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the left wing media station is feeding you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you think there is a video that shows the police acting as "tour
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guides", then provide a link AND a time index.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course his plea agreement says things to boost the prosecutor's side of the story.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is to save one's skin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway there are many more hours of video that the committee tried to hide that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was released AFTER that particular one and there is no doubt that the police stood down
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for whatever reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Show it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, except that officer who murdered Ashley Babbitt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was going through the last door to where legislators were sheltering
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and was told multiple times to get back.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He got a promotion for his "work".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As your kind likes to say when innocent black people get shot:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "She should have complied".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was murdered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this were any other person on any other day, breaking in through a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window, you'd say the killing was justified.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. I saw the footage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you can point me to a video and a timecode.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I saw what I saw. There were big bad looking men right next to her but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they chose to murder her.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was the one trying to come through the window...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...and "someone else looked like they MIGHT be scarier" isn't much of an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't see the real video. She was murdered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So show it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I already told you, once you started snipping my posts I will not do any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> work for you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's your work to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. You command nothing from me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I've seen is that the rioters were breaking out the windows in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doors to the "Speakers Lobby"...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A lot of people entered in a lot of places. She was murdered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...where there were legislators sheltering...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This video shows it:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2021/01/08/ashli-babbitt-shooting-video-capitol/>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yea? I was right. She was murdered.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...and Babbitt shot in the act of climbing through one of the broken out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was murdered. No reason to shoot her. She was not a threat. How come
>>>>>>>>>>>>> no one else got shot?
>>>>>>>>>>>> No one else tried to come through the window.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There were people right next to her. She was unarmed. If an unarmed
>>>>>>>>>>> crook get shot they call him a victim. Typical liberal.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Except for the unarmed black men...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Who were they? Are they in the video?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Again: if this was a black man coming through the window of someone's
>>>>>>>>>>>> store, you'd call it self-defense.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> She wasn't trying to break into a store you goofy fuck.
>>>>>>>>>> So if it had been a store, shooting here would have been justified?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I didn't say that you moron. I never justified anything. But you sure
>>>>>>>>> brought it up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's why I'm ASKING you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You tried to spin it around and put race into it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Protection of property is justification for shooting, but protection of
>>>>>>>>>> persons is not?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What the hell are you even trying to say? What property? What persons?
>>>>>>>>> What black people? She was murdered.
>>>>>>>> She was breaking into an area where law enforcement was protecting people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bullshit. They let them in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They weren't letting them in to the "Speaker Lobby".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The doors were barricaded and the mob was breaking the windows to get
>>>>>> through.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If she hadn't tried to climb through the window, she wouldn't have been
>>>>>>>> shot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why just her?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She was the one climbing through.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Unarmed.
>>>>
>>>> So?
>>>>
>>>> That's never bothered you before.
>>>
>>> Who have I shot stupid?
>>
>> Not what I was talking about...
>
> Then what the hell were you talking about?
You figure it out.