From: Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Pardon Every Last One of Them
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 16:26:53 -0700
Organization: UTB
In article <vm45eb$222r3$6@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>
> On 2025-01-12 13:40, Skeeter wrote:
> > In article <vlvdvg$10qqb$4@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>
> >> On 2025-01-11 18:18, Skeeter wrote:
> >>> In article <vlv3lf$rdh9$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2025-01-11 03:26, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>> In article <vlsp95$f2dr$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2025-01-10 19:19, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article <vlsikg$a24b$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 17:41, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> In article <vls99q$949p$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 14:55, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> In article <vls66n$8671$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:51, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vls341$7v2g$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:15, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlrjpi$55to$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 03:58, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlq32k$3p6o6$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 16:00, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlpkia$3j1gc$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 14:56, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlp7lf$3gfj7$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 05:34, pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 16:47, pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmcoi$2sp2o$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 09:27, Skeeter wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmaia$2sa75$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 05:53, pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:49:56 -0800, Siri Cruise
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone committed a serious crime of actual violence, they should
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay the standard penalty before release.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree no crimes were committed?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were the "crimes" worthy of the manhunt for these people and did the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punishment match the "crimes"?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the vast majority of the people convicted, no way.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some were simply wandering around outside the capitol building.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others were let in by police and escorted around the building.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who committed acts of violence, destruction of property and who were
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given due process are a different situation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give an example of someone who was convicted "simply for wandering
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around outside"?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And no rioters were "let in and escorted around the building".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy in to these bullshit narratives?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy into the lies? Were you there?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't buy into anything.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extraordinary claims require support.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something you never provide.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't waste my time with these libby Nimrods and their demands.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, just to shut the libbys upone more time:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/MGjRn0TWE0Q?si=MvTgeMACRZNS-Cy8>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should read before you post...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...assuming you know HOW to read:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Available evidence rebuts Fox News host Tucker Carlson's claim that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol Police officers acted as "tour guides" for "QAnon Shaman" Jacob
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chansley during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.'
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try watching the video and judge for yourself instead of lapping up the spin
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the left wing media station is feeding you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you think there is a video that shows the police acting as "tour
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guides", then provide a link AND a time index.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course his plea agreement says things to boost the prosecutor's side of the story.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The idea is to save one's skin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway there are many more hours of video that the committee tried to hide that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was released AFTER that particular one and there is no doubt that the police stood down
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for whatever reason.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Show it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, except that officer who murdered Ashley Babbitt.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was going through the last door to where legislators were sheltering
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and was told multiple times to get back.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He got a promotion for his "work".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As your kind likes to say when innocent black people get shot:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "She should have complied".
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was murdered.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this were any other person on any other day, breaking in through a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> window, you'd say the killing was justified.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. I saw the footage.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Great!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then you can point me to a video and a timecode.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I saw what I saw. There were big bad looking men right next to her but
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they chose to murder her.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She was the one trying to come through the window...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...and "someone else looked like they MIGHT be scarier" isn't much of an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> argument.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't see the real video. She was murdered.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So show it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I already told you, once you started snipping my posts I will not do any
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> work for you.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> It's your work to do.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Nope. You command nothing from me.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I've seen is that the rioters were breaking out the windows in the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doors to the "Speakers Lobby"...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> A lot of people entered in a lot of places. She was murdered.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...where there were legislators sheltering...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bullshit.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> This video shows it:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2021/01/08/ashli-babbitt-shooting-video-capitol/>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Yea? I was right. She was murdered.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...and Babbitt shot in the act of climbing through one of the broken out
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> window.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> She was murdered. No reason to shoot her. She was not a threat. How come
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> no one else got shot?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> No one else tried to come through the window.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> There were people right next to her. She was unarmed. If an unarmed
> >>>>>>>>>>> crook get shot they call him a victim. Typical liberal.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Except for the unarmed black men...
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Who were they? Are they in the video?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Again: if this was a black man coming through the window of someone's
> >>>>>>>>>>>> store, you'd call it self-defense.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> She wasn't trying to break into a store you goofy fuck.
> >>>>>>>>>> So if it had been a store, shooting here would have been justified?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I didn't say that you moron. I never justified anything. But you sure
> >>>>>>>>> brought it up.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> That's why I'm ASKING you.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You tried to spin it around and put race into it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Protection of property is justification for shooting, but protection of
> >>>>>>>>>> persons is not?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> What the hell are you even trying to say? What property? What persons?
> >>>>>>>>> What black people? She was murdered.
> >>>>>>>> She was breaking into an area where law enforcement was protecting people.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Bullshit. They let them in.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> They weren't letting them in to the "Speaker Lobby".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The doors were barricaded and the mob was breaking the windows to get
> >>>>>> through.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If she hadn't tried to climb through the window, she wouldn't have been
> >>>>>>>> shot.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Why just her?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> She was the one climbing through.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Unarmed.
> >>>>
> >>>> So?
> >>>>
> >>>> That's never bothered you before.
> >>>
> >>> Who have I shot stupid?
> >>
> >> Not what I was talking about...
> >
> > Then what the hell were you talking about?
>
> You figure it out.
Stop drinking that cheap Canadian rotgut so early. It shows.