From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Pardon Every Last One of Them
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 15:29:48 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-01-13 15:25, Skeeter wrote:
> In article <vm45ca$222r3$5@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>
>> On 2025-01-12 13:38, Skeeter wrote:
>>> In article <vlvdso$10qqb$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2025-01-11 18:17, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>> In article <vlv349$rdh9$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-01-11 14:31, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>> In article <vlukdf$p3mk$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-11 11:06, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <vluc42$ni31$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-11 03:26, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlso0f$f2dr$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 19:18, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlsiib$a24b$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 17:43, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vls978$949p$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 14:52, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vls63e$8671$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 13:55, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vls4e5$8672$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-10 03:57, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlq30r$3p6o6$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 15:59, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlpkfj$3j1gc$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 14:59, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlp99s$3gfij$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09 11:44, Pierre Delecto wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/2025 1:26 PM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pierre Delecto <romneysrhinoblaster@delecto.com> wrote in news:vlonlo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $3cf82$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/9/2025 9:24 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vloj9r$3cfkd$2@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-09, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 16:47, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmcoi$2sp2o$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 09:27, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vlmaia$2sa75$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08 05:53, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-08, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 12:49:56 -0800, Siri Cruise
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone committed a serious crime of actual violence,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they should pay the standard penalty before release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you agree no crimes were committed?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were the "crimes" worthy of the manhunt for these people and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did the punishment match the "crimes"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the vast majority of the people convicted, no way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Some were simply wandering around outside the capitol
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others were let in by police and escorted around the building.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those who committed acts of violence, destruction of property
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and who were given due process are a different situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Give an example of someone who was convicted "simply for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wandering around outside"?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And no rioters were "let in and escorted around the building".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy in to these bullshit narratives?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you buy into the lies? Were you there?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't buy into anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Extraordinary claims require support.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Something you never provide.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't waste my time with these libby Nimrods and their demands.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, just to shut the libbys upone more time:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/MGjRn0TWE0Q?si=MvTgeMACRZNS-Cy8>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You should read before you post...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...assuming you know HOW to read:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Available evidence rebuts Fox News host Tucker Carlson's claim that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Capitol Police officers acted as "tour guides" for "QAnon Shaman"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jacob Chansley during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol attack.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try watching the video and judge for yourself instead of lapping up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the spin the left wing media station is feeding you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course his plea agreement says things to boost the prosecutor's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> side of the story. The idea is to save one's skin.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway there are many more hours of video that the committee tried to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hide that was released AFTER that particular one and there is no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doubt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the police stood down for whatever reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, except that officer who murdered Ashley Babbitt.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He got a promotion for his "work".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump Says Jan. 6 Was an Insurrection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FEBRUARY 8, 2024
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/49af2nzt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fox News calls it an insurrection:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senate holds hearing on Capitol insurrection
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Feb 23
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/wa8d5hh3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mich McConnell calls it an insurrection:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "This failed insurrection only underscores
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how crucial the task before us is for our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> republic."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitch McConnell, Jan. 6, 2021
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tinyurl.com/35cxm3zv
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Suddenly, and conveniently, you now beleive Trump, Fox and McConnell.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Â Â Â And suddenly you realize that Trump LIES.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then Trump must have lied when he said said Jan. 6 was an insurrection.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "statement against interest": look it up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Â Â Â Why did you vote for such a brazen liar?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Because Harris was/is that bad.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Worse than a convicted felon who stole classified documents?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Like Joe did? Trump didn't "steal" anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, he really did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They recovered hundreds and hundreds of classified documents that he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DELIBERATELY took.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, no theft at all. The issue was he refused to return some.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And that makes it better...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...even assuming that's so...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...how, exactly?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He stole nothing. That's the point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He deliberately took things that didn't belong to him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is the literal definition of stealing:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steal | stel |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verb (past stole | stol |; past participle stolen | 'stol?n |)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 [with object] take (another person's property) without permission or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legal right and without intending to return it:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So did Biden. What's your point? How come Trump didn't get charged with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "intending".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I accidentally pick up the wrong phone and go home with it, that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not stealing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No charges, nothing. Stop digging empty holes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There were charges.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is a fact, doofus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yet nothing happened and he gets to have the documents back BWAAHAHAHA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you agree that there were charges, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A grand jury was empanelled and returned indictments:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.justice.gov/storage/US-v-Trump-Nauta-De-Oliveira-23-80101.pdf>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it's dead in the water.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Moving along to now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean you're running away now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That don't mean shit if he wasn't convicted. There were no theft
>>>>>>>>>>>>> charges.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Keep sliding those goalposts!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing happened. No charges and he gets the documents back.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There were charges.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You just admitted there were charges.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No I didn't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah... ...you did. When you said "that don't mean shit if he wasn't
>>>>>>>> convicted".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That's acknowledgement that the charges exist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What charges?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.justice.gov/storage/US-v-Trump-Nauta-De-Oliveira-23-80101.pdf>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why no court?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There was a court: the United States District Court for the Southern
>>>>>>>> District of Florida; presided over for Trump's case by Aileen Cannon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No charges.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There WERE charges.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You acknowledged as much.
>>>>>
>>>>> None. It's over.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No theft.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He deliberately took what didn't belong to him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There were no theft charges.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you saying there were no charges or not?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you to stupid to find out? Nothing happened.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree the trial didn't complete...
>>>>
>>>> ...because I biased know-nothing judge, appointed by Trump protect him.
>>>
>>> You always have an excuse.
>>
>> I don't have to have an excuse I have the facts.
>
> How do you know they are facts? CNN said so?
I've looked them up independently.
>>
>>> No charges.
>>
>> Like the fact that there were charges.
>
> None, he walked.
You can't "walk" from something if you aren't charged.
>>
>>> So far all thing to try and hurt
>>> him have failed.
>>
>> Convicted felon.
>
> Not for long.
>
> Get new material.
Who's going to change that?