From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Re: Permanent Diesel Generators To Charge EVs - How Fucking Absurd -
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 10:17:37 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-01-21 03:08, Dhu on Gate wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025 12:16:37 -0800, Alan wrote:
>
>> On 2025-01-19 22:59, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2025 13:21:35 -0800, Alan says...
>>>
>>>>> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GhWl9AxXUAAOXIP?format=jpg&name=large
>>>>
>>>> In the Nullabor desert in Australia...
>>>
>>> So?
>>
>> So it was an EXPERIMENT.
>>
>>>
>>>> ...where there is no electrical grid...
>>>
>>> And?
>>>
>>>> ...and it was from more than 6 years ago...
>>>
>>> Solar AND wind existed 6 years ago.
>>
>> And today, that's what they're using.
>>
>>>
>>>> ...and it was running on bio-diesel:
>>>
>>> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>>
>>> What... Bio-Diesel doesn't spew CO²?
>> Of course it does...
>>
>> ...but the source comes from plants, and so it is a balanced cycle.
>>
>> Only fossil fuels create CO2 that isn't balanced.
>
> Bio-diesel is still a looong ways offa bein' "energy efficient".
> Currently it's co$t is sufficient that it is economically warranted
> only in underground mines and other places where operators cannot
> avoid direct exhaust. Turning corn that people or cows can eat
> into coal to burn buys us nothing.
That wasn't the point I was making.
I wasn't advocating for its use, but simply pointing out that its use
doesn't contribute to atmospheric CO2, because it is balanced by the CO2
that is fixed to create it in the first place.
>
> Synthesising long-chain hydro-carbon directly from solar seems to me to be
> the grail: leaving the plant step in involves the temptation to futz with
> the underlying mechanisms of plant metabolism, something I think best
> to avoid on-planet. Long-chain alcohols might be a good first step.
>
> As for st8 battery-electrics, they make sense inside big cities, but
> batteries are a 4 century-old (or more) tech that's the achilles's heal
> of our technology...
>
> Dhu
>
> --
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