From: Skeeter <NT@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: They're Even ADMITTING It, Stupid
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2025 22:19:20 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: DNC
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in news:vmrjp6$14sj7$1@dont-email.me:
> On 2025-01-22 09:53, AlleyCat wrote:
>>
>> WHICH building are these generators powering?
>>
>> https://cowboystatedaily.imgix.net/tesla-superstation-10-1-23.jpg?
>> ixlib=js-3.8.0&q=75&auto=format%2Ccompress&fit=clip&w=2048
>
> And what makes you think those are generators?
>
> Where are the exhaust pipes?
>
>> This is from September 30, 2023.
>
> Actually, no, it's not. It was taken by Manuela Durson on November 5,
> 2022.
>
> <https://www.alamy.com/aerial-photo-of-supercharger-tesla-station-at-
th
> e-harris-ranch-in-california-image519421629.html>
>
> And it looked the same to Google Maps in February 2023:
>
> <https://www.google.com/maps/@36.2534117,-
120.24,3a,90y,282.13h,14.91t/
> data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1sAF1QipNLwYhb_SL_MgPPCLh8oDvo-a-yszyYwlG3A6T4!2e10!
3
> e11!6shttps:%2F%2Flh3.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%
2FAF1QipNLwYhb_SL_MgPPC
> Lh8oDvo-a-yszyYwlG3A6T4%3Dw900-h600-k-no-pi75.08536813099087-
ya282.1279
> 272754878-ro0-fo100!7i8192!8i4096?
entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDExNS4wIKXMDS
> oASAFQAw%3D%3D>
>
> But you still haven't provided any evidence that those are generators.
>
> And here's what it looks like today (well, as close to "today" as we
> can get):
>
> <https://www.google.com/maps/place/Harris+Ranch+Resort/@36.2537291,-
120
> .2404776,160m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m9!3m8!
1s0x809360b984d735fd:0x9830c492605c
> f9aa!5m2!4m1!1i2!8m2!3d36.2541033!4d-120.2372492!16s%2Fg%2F1hc6317gr?
en
> try=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDExNS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D>
>
> Note all the solar panels.
>
>>
>> In 2017, Tesla CEO said that all Superchargers in the automaker's
>> network were being converted to solar.
>>
>> 7 years later, and...?
>>
>> Superchargers charge vehicles up to the 80% sweet spot in as little
>> as 20 minutes, but to provide that kind of power for nearly 100 bays
>> takes something solar can't provide - diesel generators.
>>
>> Investigative journalist Edward Niedermeyer discovered that the
>> station was powered by diesel generators hidden behind a Shell
>> station. Reporters at SF Gate tried to find out how much of the
>> station's electricity was from the generators, but couldn't get a
>> response from Tesla.
>
> 1. He found a temporary diesel generator PARKED (not hidden) in what
> had formerly been a drive thru car wash.
>
> <https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/attachments/2015-battery-swap-harris-
r
> anch-jpg.970811/>
>
> Here is that exact same spot from May 2016:
>
> <https://www.google.com/maps/@36.2526085,-
120.2393086,3a,17.4y,339.21h,
> 88.9t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s8n3O3WYYJWtu_0u2GESghg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%
2Fstre
> etviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%
3Dmaps_sv.t
> actile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D1.1020231323065133%26panoid%
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> 3WYYJWtu_0u2GESghg%26yaw%3D339.2117400898443!7i13312!8i6656?
entry=ttu&g
> _ep=EgoyMDI1MDExNS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D>
>
> Notice what isn't there?
>
>:-)
>
>
>
>>
>> The station isn't connected to any dedicated solar farms, which
>> means that absent the diesel generators, the station is powered by
>> California's grid.
>
> Maybe you should look at the dedicated solar panels that were
> installed...
>
> ...and consider that they need batteries to store the electricity they
> create.
>
>>
>> According to the U.S. Energy and Information Administration, in June
>> 2023, natural gas supplied nearly 5,000 megawatt hours of
>> electricity in California, whereas non-hydroelectric renewables
>> supplied about 7,250 megawatt hours.
>>
>> https://cowboystatedaily.com/2023/09/30/largest-ev-charging-station-
>> in-the-world-uses-diesel-powered-generators/
>
> False.
>
> Sorry, but it's just false.
>
> The picture was taken after some equipment was delivered, but before
> the solar panels were installed.
>
> 'New Tesla V4 Supercharger site to feature Megapack battery storage
> and solar generation'
>
> <https://chargedevs.com/newswire/new-tesla-v4-supercharger-site-to-
feat
> ure-megapack-battery-storage-and-solar-generation/>
>
> <https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/ppgbxx/megapack_at_supe
r
> charger_is_this_a_thing/>
>
> And finally:
>
> 'Tesla Breaks Ground on World's Largest Supercharger, Featuring Solar,
> Megapacks and Canopies'
>
> <https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/2337/tesla-breaks-ground-on-worlds-
l
> argest-supercharger-featuring-solar-megapacks-and-canopies>
>
> 'Teslaâs largest Supercharger site today is at the Harris Ranch
> complex in Coalinga, California. There are a staggering 98 charging
> stalls. An interesting fact about Harris Ranch is that it was also the
> first and only battery swap station that Tesla tried back in 2014.
> While other companies like Nio have continued battery swap stations,
> Tesla decided to focus on charging instead.'
>
> They are the BATTERIES, doofus.
>
Hey did you hear? DRILL BABY DRILL