From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: They're Even ADMITTING It, Stupid
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2025 11:17:20 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-01-23 06:34, AlleyCat wrote:
>
> On Wed, 22 Jan 2025 12:18:19 -0800, Alan says...
>
>> It's not my fault you lack the integrity to admit you're wrong.
>
> [giggle]
>
> the generator was there when the article was written, so... YOU are
> wrong.
No. It wasn't.
>
> "Today" is irrelevant. The story was from 2023 and so true.
The Cowboy State Daily article was from 2023. The Slate article about
the generator was from 2022 but the Slate author was taking about "a
beautiful day in May 2015".
<https://slate.com/technology/2022/05/elon-musk-tesla-twitter-fables.html>
In the article Niedermeyer claims there were "generators", but what he
shows is just one (which is acknowled
>
> The batteries were charged from the GENERATORS that were in the
> HIDDEN in "back" of the shell station pumps.
Wrong. Those batteries in the Cowboy State Daily article weren't even
THERE then the generator was there.
There was a GENERATOR (singular) that Niedermeyer saw "On a beautiful
day in May 2015"
It was here:
<https://www.google.com/maps/
@36.2526085,-120.2393086,3a,27.5y,339.36h,88.9t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!
1s8n3O3WYYJWtu_0u2GESghg!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-
pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D1.1002956838226794%26panoid%3D8n3O3WYYJWtu_0u2GESghg%26yaw%3D339.3589858054897!7i13312!8i6656?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyMC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D>
Here's the video linked from the 2022 Slate article:
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU4z1Jeyq2g>
Those were two (or maybe three) temporary superchargers placed 600 feet
away from where the actual 18-bay Harris Ranch Supercharger station is
and remains today.
The Cowboy State Daily article conflates that generator with a different
station that wasn't there in 2015
Here's what the lot that the CSD article is talking about looked like in
2015:
<https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Gj9wJz_OiUPnYpNQ2OkAthEnZsRjNMbP/view?usp=sharing>
(Sorry, Google Maps on the web won't let me do older imagery of the same
site, so I used Google Earth Pro.)
>
> =====
>
> MORE:
>
> Updated Nov 15, 2023 10:30 a.m.
>
> "But as with many Tesla-related things, questions have been raised
> about how Tesla has powered its projects near the Supercharger.
> Across the way from the Harris Ranch Supercharger's main stations,
> BEHIND A SHELL STATION, sits a small building where, ACCORDING TO A
> 2015 REPORT, A DIESEL GENERATOR once helped power Tesla's footprint
> here." - SFGate.com
Singular in 2015.
>
> "The temporary generator was operated by Tesla to provide power for
> the mobile Supercharger unit, during the retrofit of the permanent
> site in 2015," Harris Ranch spokesperson Suzanne Devereaux told
> SFGATE via email on Oct. 18."
And definitely temporary.
>
> So... no matter HOW many times yu try to fool your low-information,
> low-IQ "audience", you can NOT deny there was a diesel generator at
> The Harris Ranch.
I've never denied it. I've denied that the Cowboy State Daily article
was right about the station they show as being supplied by diesel
generatorS (plural) based on the fact that the station they show didn't
even exist at the time a singular generator was found to be powering a
couple of temporary Superchargers.
>
> I don't CARE in what capacity: temporary, emergency or other... the
> generator WAS there, making the story true, and you a liar, because
> you did not address the article and it's period in time.
The Cowboy State Daily story is false.
Because "Largest EV Charging Station In World" (from the article's title)...
...wasn't THERE when the generator was there.
That "Largest EV Charging Station In World"...
...isn't the same Supercharger station as the Harris Ranch Resort operates.
Here's the new one:
<https://www.google.com/maps/place/Harris+Ranch+Resort/@36.2535696,-120.2404145,239m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m9!3m8!1s0x809360b984d735fd:0x9830c492605cf9aa!5m2!4m1!1i2!8m2!3d36.2537088!4d-120.2372825!16s%2Fg%2F1hc6317gr?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyMC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D>
The westernmost building where the road at the bottom is the location
that had the generator...8 YEARS before that Supercharger station existed.
The Harris Ranch Resort Supercharge station is here:
<https://www.google.com/maps/place/Harris+Ranch+Resort/@36.2542408,-120.2379541,240m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m9!3m8!1s0x809360b984d735fd:0x9830c492605cf9aa!5m2!4m1!1i2!8m2!3d36.2537088!4d-120.2372825!16s%2Fg%2F1hc6317gr?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyMC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D>
I've deliberately not changed the zoom factor between those to Google
Maps images.
Here's the zoomed out view that shows all three.
The original Harris Ranch station, the former car wash building that had
a diesel generator (singular) for one brief period in 20215, and the new
Supercharger station:
<https://www.google.com/maps/place/Harris+Ranch+Resort/@36.2541087,-120.2392422,394m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m9!3m8!1s0x809360b984d735fd:0x9830c492605cf9aa!5m2!4m1!1i2!8m2!3d36.2537088!4d-120.2372825!16s%2Fg%2F1hc6317gr?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDEyMC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D>
>
> PLONK!
You're wrong.
Let it go.