From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: LeftTards lie: Re: Trump Pardons Convicted Cop Killers
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2025 13:54:49 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-01-27 13:23, pothead wrote:
> On 2025-01-26, Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote:
>> In article <vn41p6$36ocn$6@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>
>>> On 2025-01-25 04:39, Skeeter wrote:
>>>> In article <vn0nh4$2c21c$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-01-24 10:47, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>> In article <vn0kp2$2aj9r$8@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2025-01-24 08:48, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <vmujjh$1s0lt$5@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-23 14:59, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 14:48:59 -0800, Alan says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ?all that transpired played a role in his condition.?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But STILL no murder charges.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, that will be all, boy.
>>>>>>>>> But still not exactly JUST natural causes as you claimed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No murder except for the innocent unarmed girl.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She wasn't innocent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She was breaking through a door via a broken window.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So? She was unarmed.
>>>>>
>>>>> So? She was breaking into an area where people were sheltering from a
>>>>> mob. If she'd been there all by herself, things would have been
>>>>> different and you know it.
>>>>
>>>> Unarmed. Murder. Simple as that.
>>>
>>> Nope. That is simply not the case.
>>
>> Sure was. If someone tried to break into my house unarmed and I shot
>> them I would go to jail.
>
> Where I live I would need to demonstrate imminent bodily harm. So
> basically I neutralized the intruder based upon threats and a "It's you
> or me" type situation.
Where do you live? You don't have to give your street address; just the
jurisdiction.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law#United_States>
'Washington, D.C. adopts a "middle ground" approach, under which "The
law does not require a person to retreat," but "in deciding whether
[defendant] reasonably at the time of the incident believed that s/he
was in imminent danger of death or serious bodily harm and that deadly
force was necessary to repel that danger, you may consider, along with
any other evidence, whether the [defendant] could have safely retreated
... but did not."'
To where could Byrd and the people he was protecting have "safely
retreated"?
>
> Someone trying to pry open a window without a threat either spoken or
> demonstrated, ie:pointing a weapon at the homeowner, does not qualify.
> Nor should it.
This was beyond just trying to pry open a window, and there were most
definitely threats made.
>
> If I were in such a situation, one on one, I would point my weapon, yell loudly
> that the police are on their way and if you do not leave immediately, I will shoot you.
> In all likelihood that would take care of the vast majority of encounters like this.
And the police officer in this case did just that: yell.
"Babbitt had been warned not to proceed through the window: one witness
recalled that "A number of police and Secret Service were saying 'Get
back! Get down! Get out of the way!'"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCuIxBzylyo>