From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: WHO Is Trying To Eliminate/Change the 1st and 2nd Amendements and
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2025 15:15:57 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-01-31 12:59, AlleyCat wrote:
>
> On Fri, 31 Jan 2025 12:18:17 -0800, Alan says...
>
>>> Executive orders aren't lawful?
>>
>> In contradiction with the clear language of the US constitution?
>
> The "language" is NOT clear, especially when we ALL know the 14th
> was written with ex-slaves and their offspring in mind, and NO
> others.
>
> If you can't show that in 1868, those who wrote the 14th Amendment
> meant others, OTHER than ex-slaves and their offspring...
>
> PLONK!
Awww... ...do you have to run away, you little Pussey?
' In United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the Court
affirmed the right to citizenship of the United States of a child born
in the State of California whose parents, at the time of his birth, were
subjects of the Emperor of China not employed in any diplomatic or
official capacity. After reviewing judicial and statutory precedents on
citizenship, Justice Gray, writing for the Court, stated:
...
"To hold that the Fourteen Amendment of the Constitution excludes from
citizenship the children, born in the United States, of citizens or
subjects of other countries, would be to deny citizenship to thousands
of persons of English, Scotch, Irish, German or other European
parentage, who have always been considered and treated as citizens of
the United States."'
Or how about:
'Can birthright citizenship be changed?
Harvard Law School Professor Gerald Neuman says a president has no
authority at all to change United States citizenship rules'
'The Constitution is clear: Those born on American soil, even to
undocumented parents, are citizens of the United States, says Gerald
Neuman â80, the J. Sinclair Armstrong Professor of International,
Foreign, and Comparative Law at Harvard Law School.
...
Neuman, an expert in immigration and nationality law, says that both
history and Supreme Court precedent confirm an intent to grant
citizenship to anyone born in the U.S. â regardless of their parentsâ
legal status. Moreover, he adds, âThe president of the United States has
no authority to change citizenship rules at all.â'