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On 2025-02-13, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> On 2/13/25 12:06, Skeeter wrote:
>> In article <vol75e$2vt9q$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>
>>> On 2025-02-13 07:54, Skeeter wrote:
>>>> In article <vojlpk$2k2g1$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-02-12 18:32, pothead wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-02-12, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2025-02-12 05:40, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-10, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 10:04:14 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Feb 2025 14:01:45 -0500, -hh
>>>>>>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/8/25 11:40 AM, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Feb 2025 05:24:24 -0500, -hh says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Compared to Biden's EV initiative where $7.5 billion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dollars has built ~10 chargers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you research *why* before making that complaint?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The chargers were promised... the money was taken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> WHERE are the chargers?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you'd done your research, you'd know.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Show us (if you can).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The point is in 2021 the money, $7.5 billion, was allocated to build
>>>>>>>> a charging network across the US. So how many were built in the
>>>>>>>> subsequent 3 years?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> THAT is the point.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> P.S. This is the kind of waste and government mismanagement that
>>>>>>>> DOGE is uncovering.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That money was allocated doesn't mean it was SPENT.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is the point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did I have claim it was spent?
>>>>>
>>>>> 'This is the kind of waste and government mismanagement that DOGE is
>>>>> uncovering.'
>>>>>
>>>>> That doesn't apply until the money is SPENT and you can look at what you
>>>>> got for the money.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Read what I wrote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So again how many chargers did Biden build in ~3 years?
>>>>> How is that relevant?
>>>>>
>>>>> How much was actually SPENT to get the chargers that were built?
>>>>
>>>> and away he spins again.
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> It's a key part of the discussion.
>>>
>>> You agree that if they spend just $10,000 to build 10 chargers that
>>> would be a bargain, right?
>> 
>> They didn't and I didn't. How many did they build in 3 years?
>
>
> Looks like a direct reply is appropriate for this *clearly he's never 
> been project manager* poster too:
>
>
> In 1962, JFK promised to land a man on the moon in ten years.
>
> By 1967, how many moon landings were there?
> Zero.

You can't be serious.
Do you think someone could snap their fingers and send men to the moon?
Darn you are scraping the bottom of the barrel.
This is even low for you hh.
The process was to take baby steps as they learned.
To compare that to installing a charger is laughable.
My local library installed 6 chargers in a day.
Nobody uses them but they are there.
Oh and my town is insane about rules, zoning, regulations and so forth.
Everybody has their hand out.


>
> Structurally, the charger rollout is a slow boil because of "States 
> Rights", not the Feds.

Where is the government oversight?

> You're apparently assuming that the Fed was doing everything top-down
> and dictating to the States that they're going to install a charger on 
> 3rd & Main, with a Federal level contractor rolling up to do the work.

Where is the oversight from the government?
Who are the stakeholders?
This is a boatload of money so who is keeping track?
Biden can manage to shift FEMA money to illegal migrants so why is he/administration
incapable of following a simple project?


> That's false.

Nope.
> It's a trickle-down where the Feds funded the States, and the States 
> have the responsibility to run the project.

Oh.. Like trump leaving it up to the states to manage their own COVID
vaccine delivery?

> Deciding the chargers are going to be sited?
> State's responsibility.

Yawn.

> Permitting process?
> State's responsibility.

So 3 years?
I thought the world was going to collapse without us switching to EV.
See John Kerry or AOC for details.




> Contracts to purchase the hardware?
> State's responsibility.
>
> Contracts for site installation?
> State's responsibility.
>
> Schedule?
> State's responsibility.
>
> Plus FYI, individual States weren't required to run it at the State 
> level:  they could delegate it to the local counties/municipalities. 
> That's an additional layer which is 100% responsibility of the State, 
> not the Fed.
>
> So to answer your "where are the chargers?" question, the answer is to 
> go ask your shitty local Florida politicians where the money went and 
> what's taking them so damn long.
>
> Likewise, if there's waste/fraud/abuse/graft/fraud, that's also the 
> responsibility of your local government too.
>
>
> FYI, for those that have already been built, I'd research why. It could 
> be that that State lit a fire under their people, and/or had some 
> existing "Shovel Ready" or demonstration projects that effectively just 
> needed money to accelerate their build schedules.
>
>
> -hh

All you post are a laundry list of excuses and blame game.
This project was national and a lot of money was allocated.
So you mean 50 states were completely inept at taking free money?

Try again.




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