From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: Full Self Driving Air Traffic Control Goes To Mars
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2025 10:09:29 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-02-14 06:25, pothead wrote:
> On 2025-02-14, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2025-02-13 19:28, pothead wrote:
>>> On 2025-02-14, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-02-13 18:40, pothead wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-02-14, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-02-13 15:59, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2025-02-13, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2/13/25 12:06, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article <vol75e$2vt9q$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-13 07:54, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vojlpk$2k2g1$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-12 18:32, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-12, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-12 05:40, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-10, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 10:04:14 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Feb 2025 14:01:45 -0500, -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/8/25 11:40 AM, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Feb 2025 05:24:24 -0500, -hh says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Compared to Biden's EV initiative where $7.5 billion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dollars has built ~10 chargers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you research *why* before making that complaint?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The chargers were promised... the money was taken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WHERE are the chargers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you'd done your research, you'd know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Show us (if you can).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point is in 2021 the money, $7.5 billion, was allocated to build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a charging network across the US. So how many were built in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subsequent 3 years?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT is the point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. This is the kind of waste and government mismanagement that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DOGE is uncovering.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That money was allocated doesn't mean it was SPENT.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is the point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did I have claim it was spent?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'This is the kind of waste and government mismanagement that DOGE is
>>>>>>>>>>>> uncovering.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't apply until the money is SPENT and you can look at what you
>>>>>>>>>>>> got for the money.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read what I wrote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So again how many chargers did Biden build in ~3 years?
>>>>>>>>>>>> How is that relevant?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How much was actually SPENT to get the chargers that were built?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and away he spins again.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's a key part of the discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You agree that if they spend just $10,000 to build 10 chargers that
>>>>>>>>>> would be a bargain, right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> They didn't and I didn't. How many did they build in 3 years?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looks like a direct reply is appropriate for this *clearly he's never
>>>>>>>> been project manager* poster too:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In 1962, JFK promised to land a man on the moon in ten years.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> By 1967, how many moon landings were there?
>>>>>>>> Zero.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can't be serious.
>>>>>>> Do you think someone could snap their fingers and send men to the moon?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you familiar with the word "analogy"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yea and comparing the moon mission to installing chargers is a joke.
>>>>> They are not even close.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are an idiot if you believe they are.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Darn you are scraping the bottom of the barrel.
>>>>>>> This is even low for you hh.
>>>>>>> The process was to take baby steps as they learned.
>>>>>>> To compare that to installing a charger is laughable.
>>>>>>> My local library installed 6 chargers in a day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So they agreed to do it and it was done the same day, huh?
>>>>>
>>>>> Keep spinning.
>>>>> The goal was by the end of the decade.
>>>>> Did Biden have such a time line?
>>>>> Of course not.
>>>>>
>>>>> You libbys are really getting desperate here.
>>>>
>>>> Can't help noticing you didn't answer the question you were asked.
>>>>
>>>> I'll try again below.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nobody uses them but they are there.
>>>>>>> Oh and my town is insane about rules, zoning, regulations and so forth.
>>>>>>> Everybody has their hand out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it didn't take a day, did it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes it did.
>>>>> One day.
>>>>> Six chargers installed.
>>>> So no permits were required?
>>>
>>> Of course they were.
>>> A couple weeks at most.
>>
>> So NOT the day you insisted was true.
>>
>>>
>>>> No preparation of a site?
>>>
>>> Simple. Do you have any idea?
>>>
>>>
>>>> They decided on a Monday to install six chargers and they were done on
>>>> Tuesday?
>>>>
>>>> Bullshit and you know it.
>>>
>>> Fact.
>>> I'm not claiming the decision was made in a day, there was plenty of prep work
>>> but once the approval to install was granted, it took a single day.
>>>> Total time maybe 2 months.
>>>
>>> Biden has had 3 years.
>>>
>>> So how many chargers has he built?
>>
>> So you constructed a straw man.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You can spin all you want but my statements stand and unless you can prove me wrong
>>> crawl back into your cave.
>> Your statement about it happening in a day certainly doesn't stand, now
>> does it?
>
> Physically Installed.
> Built.
> Brought online.
>
> Call it what you will.
> That's what it was.
> And the permit process certainly didn't take 3 years.
>
> Have you ever seen the inside of a Tesla supercharger?
> It's literally 75% empty space.
> Think of it as a a high current/voltage version of your iPhone charger.
> Not exactly rocket science.
Your statement that it only took a day was complete an utter bullshit.
I'll bet there is a record somewhere where you could show when the
decision to put those chargers in place was...
...but we know you'll never show it because it will show it was made so
long before the chargers actually got installed that it will expose you
for the ass you are.