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On 2025-02-15, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> On 2/14/25 06:36, -hh wrote:
>> On 2/13/25 22:34, Alan wrote:
>>> On 2025-02-13 19:28, pothead wrote:
>>>> On 2025-02-14, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-02-13 18:40, pothead wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-02-14, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2025-02-13 15:59, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-13, -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2/13/25 12:06, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> In article <vol75e$2vt9q$2@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-13 07:54, Skeeter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <vojlpk$2k2g1$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>> says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-12 18:32, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-12, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-12 05:40, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-10, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 09 Feb 2025 10:04:14 -0500, NoBody 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <NoBody@nowhere.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Feb 2025 14:01:45 -0500, -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/8/25 11:40 AM, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Feb 2025 05:24:24 -0500, -hh says...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Compared to Biden's EV initiative where $7.5 billion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dollars has built ~10 chargers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you research *why* before making that complaint?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The chargers were promised... the money was taken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WHERE are the chargers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you'd done your research, you'd know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Show us (if you can).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The point is in 2021 the money, $7.5 billion, was 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allocated to build
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a charging network across the US. So how many were built 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subsequent 3 years?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT is the point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. This is the kind of waste and government 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mismanagement that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DOGE is uncovering.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That money was allocated doesn't mean it was SPENT.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That is the point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did I have claim it was spent?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'This is the kind of waste and government mismanagement that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> DOGE is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> uncovering.'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That doesn't apply until the money is SPENT and you can look 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at what you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> got for the money.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Read what I wrote.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So again how many chargers did Biden build in ~3 years?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How is that relevant?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How much was actually SPENT to get the chargers that were 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> built?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and away he spins again.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's a key part of the discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You agree that if they spend just $10,000 to build 10 chargers 
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> would be a bargain, right?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> They didn't and I didn't. How many did they build in 3 years?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looks like a direct reply is appropriate for this *clearly he's 
>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>> been project manager* poster too:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In 1962, JFK promised to land a man on the moon in ten years.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> By 1967, how many moon landings were there?
>>>>>>>>> Zero.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can't be serious.
>>>>>>>> Do you think someone could snap their fingers and send men to the 
>>>>>>>> moon?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you familiar with the word "analogy"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yea and comparing the moon mission to installing chargers is a joke.
>>>>>> They are not even close.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are an idiot if you believe they are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Darn you are scraping the bottom of the barrel.
>>>>>>>> This is even low for you hh.
>>>>>>>> The process was to take baby steps as they learned.
>>>>>>>> To compare that to installing a charger is laughable.
>>>>>>>> My local library installed 6 chargers in a day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So they agreed to do it and it was done the same day, huh?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keep spinning.
>>>>>> The goal was by the end of the decade.
>>>>>> Did Biden have such a time line?
>>>>>> Of course not.
>> 
>> False.  The legislation had an eight (8) year timeline, so it won't be 
>> completed until 2030 ...
>> 
>> And FYI, under nominal FAR provisions, that would be Obligations, so 
>> actual funds disbursements (aka "payments") would be valid thru 2032.
>> 
>> 
>>>>>> You libbys are really getting desperate here.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't help noticing you didn't answer the question you were asked.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll try again below.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nobody uses them but they are there.
>>>>>>>> Oh and my town is insane about rules, zoning, regulations and so 
>>>>>>>> forth.
>>>>>>>> Everybody has their hand out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So it didn't take a day, did it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes it did.
>>>>>> One day.
>>>>>> Six chargers installed.
>>>>> So no permits were required?
>>>>
>>>> Of course they were.
>>>> A couple weeks at most.
>>>
>>> So NOT the day you insisted was true.
>> 
>> Busted.
>> 
>>>>> No preparation of a site?
>>>>
>>>> Simple. Do you have any idea?
>> 
>> Chargers require electricity from the grid, right, Mr "EE"?
>> 
>> How long does it take for you to get the allocation and provision for 
>> even just a 69kV drop to your site's transformer bank?  Or do you think 
>> that such connections are ubiquitous and a 'same day' installation too?
>> 
>> Because if the grid can't support the location and scale, you can easily 
>> be talking years working with the Utility just for provisioning.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>>> They decided on a Monday to install six chargers and they were done on
>>>>> Tuesday?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bullshit and you know it.
>>>>
>>>> Fact.
>>>> I'm not claiming the decision was made in a day, there was plenty of 
>>>> prep work but once the approval to install was granted, it took a 
>>>> single day.
>>>> Total time maybe 2 months.
>> 
>> So easily a 50x error in his claim.
>> 
>> 
>>>> Biden has had 3 years.
>>>>
>>>> So how many chargers has he built?
>>>
>>> So you constructed a straw man.
>> 
>> Because the bill contained a lot more initiatives other than just 
>> chargers, pothead also needs to show that there was actually budget 
>> allocations for chargers in the first years too.
>> 
>> To use an analogy, if you have an 8 year project to build a new cruise 
>> ship, you don't buy linens & towels for the cabins in Year 1 (or 2, 3).
>> 
>> 
>>>> You can spin all you want but my statements stand and unless you can 
>>>> prove me wrong crawl back into your cave. 
>>>
>>> Your statement about it happening in a day certainly doesn't stand, 
>>> now does it?
>> 
>> Plus the location of this alleged charger installation hasn't been 
>> provided, so one can't independently fact check pothead's "prove me 
>> wrong" claim:  gosh, golly, what a surprise!  /s
>> 
>> 
>> -hh
>
> Gosh, did a certain "loud" poster suddenly become ... absent?   /s
>
>
> -hh
Nope.
I'm here.
I've posted my points, you guys don't accept them so I'm
going to try and convince you because it's a waste of time.

-- 
pothead

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