From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: DOGE Slashes 3,600 Wasteful HHS Jobs-Saving Taxpayers $600 MILLION Annually
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2025 17:56:14 -0600
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:22:53 -0500, -hh says...
> > On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 09:14:30 -0500, -hh says...
> >
> >>> The implication was that some were working/staying at home, AND
> >>> getting second jobs, outside of government work.
> >>
> >> Precisely: it is an innuendo that's unproven.
Well, it's proven now.
> > > Furthermore, the innuendo is trying to falsely suggest that it is a
> > > widespread practice without any substantiation on magnitude either.
> >
> > No one said "widespread".
And how widespread or not it is... HOW would YOU know?
> Yet that's what the innuendo is from the "only 1%" bit.
It's not innuendo if it's true... right?
Annnnd, it's not innuendo, because I found it to be true. Simple searches.
Swiftly checking the first one or two results that came up: did you know what 10% of the federal workforce went entirely remote.
Do you know what 10% of 2,800,000 is?
228,000 employees were home workers.
Do you know what 1% of 228,000 is?
2,280
I don't know about you, but *I* consider that more than innuendo AND a little more "widespread" than YOU think.
1% may seem small, but 2,280 workers taking 2nd or 3rd jobs is quite a bit.
> > Could it be that some workers were ALREADY working 2, 3 jobs and were found out?
> > Yes.
> Or it could be owners of office buildings who are at risk of losing their Fed leaseholders because with teleworking, the Feds don't need to pay them to rent that space from them anymore.
The office space was being rented... THAT'S one of the problems.
"What we're trying to do is reduce government. We have too many people. WE HAVE OFFICE SPACE, IT'S OCCUPIED BY (6%). Nobody's showing up to work because they were told not to. And then Biden gave
them a five-year pass, some of them, 48,000 of them, (he) gave a five-year pass, that for five years, you don't have to show up to work."
If the office space was not being rented (it was), then how did factcheck.org come up with the figure of 6% of office space being filled?
If the office space was NOT still being rented, then how is this statement plausible?
"On his first day in office, Trump issued a memo instructing the heads of all federal departments and agencies to 'take all necessary steps to terminate remote work arrangements and require employees
to return to work in-person AT THEIR RESPECTIVE DUTY STATIONS on a full-time basis, provided that the department and agency heads shall make exemptions they deem necessary.'" - factcheck.org
"According to a recent congressional report, only 6% of federal workers report to work in-person on a full-time basis." - factcheck.org
I'm thinking that they kept most, if not all, of the office space rented, in case workers, for some reason NEEDED to go in and work, which, actually IS true. (see statement above)
> > Studies have already shown that some, not all, federal workers who got to work from home took 2nd jobs. That, in and of itself, is not "illegal", unless the job conflicts with their federal
> > job, or ANOTHER federal job.
> Do these unnamed 'studies'...
They were government studies, written about on reputable LEFT-WING websites. I'll consider going back through my browser's history to give you the site(s), if you say please. LOL... nope.
> ... bother to note that some, not all, workers took 2nd jobs even before CoVid or telework?
Reasons?
You gonna pull "reasons" on us?
Covid "OR" telework?
Was "telework" an event... a pandemic?
If an employee's job entailed working from home already, then no, I doubt those jobs were part of the study, but...
... not relevant, and a non-sequitur. The office space is rented for those NOT already working from home.
These teleworkers might not be needed in the numbers that we currently have. Perhaps one could do the job of two... maybe even three.
If DoGE finds these jobs redundant, therefor wasteful, who are you and I to argue?
Waste is waste. And with our debt?... puhleeze!
OK, Ski Bunny... you can chime in with GOP wanting to raise the debt ceiling, now.
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