From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,talk.politics.guns,can.politics,sac.politics
Subject: Re: Can't Blame Trump! All 80 aboard Delta flight survive after jet flips upon arrival in Toronto
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 11:48:49 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-02-19 11:40, tye syding wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 11:32:16 -0800
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2025-02-19 10:03, tye syding wrote:
>>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:02:14 -0800
>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-02-18 15:24, tye syding wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 15:02:23 -0800
>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-02-18 13:38, tye syding wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 13:20:42 -0800
>>>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-18 12:14, tye syding wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 08:58:34 -0800
>>>>>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> you can't determine blame simply by looking at where an
>>>>>>>>>> accident happened
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Of course you can where intense meterological conditions
>>>>>>>>> exist, especially snowy runways, crosswinds and sudden
>>>>>>>>> downdrafts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No. That isn't about "where" it happened.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You've lost all your marbles, snow mexican.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Weather is intensely place-correlated.
>>>>>> Sure... ...but "correlation is not causation".
>>>>>
>>>>> Bad weather was caused by location and atmospheric dynamics.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bottom line:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We don't know why this jet crashed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> But we can see that video and the right wing catch and know that
>>>>> slippery conditions and high crosswinds played a role.
>>>>>
>>>>> The NTSB workup will in time explain if the landing gear collapsed
>>>>> or there were other factors.
>>>>>
>>>>> For now - weather.
>>>> Actually, what was obvious that you've utterly failed to see is
>>>> that the descent rate was FAR TOO HIGH.
>>>
>>> That came out this morning.
>>>
>>> Could be a microburst, or flaps malfunction, there are no black box
>>> reading yet, are there?
>>>
>>> Funny thing, as easily as it was to recover.
>>>
>>
>> Ah, yes!
>>
>> The conspiracy theorist emerges!
>
> BB data is where?
>
> Why?
>
> Uh huh.
<https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/delta-air-lines-said-most-passengers-toronto-plane-crash-released-hospital-2025-02-18/>
'Canadian investigators said on Tuesday they sent black boxes for lab
analysis from a Delta Air Lines regional jet that flipped upside down
upon landing in Toronto a day earlier, as they probe causes of the crash
that injured 21 people.'
So the plane crashed at 2pm on Monday,
On Tuesday, the black boxes (flight data recorder and cockpit voice
recorder) had already been "sent" for analysis.
Try to keep up, doofus.