From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Both Presidents Obama And Biden Said They Wanted To End Waste In
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2025 14:46:44 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-02-23 14:11, pothead wrote:
> On 2025-02-23, Mercy-a-lago <run@no.spam> wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 12:06:13 -0800 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-02-23 11:43, Mercy-a-lago wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 10:51:48 -0800 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-02-23 10:42, Mercy-a-lago wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 17:10:29 -0800 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2025-02-22 16:26, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-22, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-22 14:19, Mercy-a-lago wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 16:47:40 -0500 -hh
>>>>>>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2/22/25 15:53, Mercy-a-lago wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 12:39:58 -0800 Alan <nuh-
>>>>>>>>>>>> uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-22 12:30, Mercy-a-lago wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 15:23:49 -0500 Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Biden actually got something done for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our infrastructure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roads, bridges, rail, all worse by far.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You lie simply to lie as a knee jerk.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.constructiondive.com/news/report-
>>>>>>>>>>>> more- than-a- third-of-us-bridges-are-
>>>>>>>>>>>> structurally- deficient-it- coul/604302/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The U.S. has a bridge problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The American Society of Civil Engineers gave
>>>>>>>>>>>> the countryâs overall infrastructure a C-
>>>>>>>>>>>> grade in its 2021 report card, and the
>>>>>>>>>>>> American Road and Transportation Builders
>>>>>>>>>>>> Association estimates that 171.5 million
>>>>>>>>>>>> vehicles cross over 45,000 structurally
>>>>>>>>>>>> deficient U.S. bridges every day.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://tripnet.org/reports/rural-
>>>>>>>>>>>> connections- national-news-
>>>>>>>>>>>> release-09-19-2024/
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> U.S. RURAL ROADS & BRIDGES HAVE SIGNIFICANT
>>>>>>>>>>>> DEFICIENCIES & HIGH FATALITY RATES; BACKLOG
>>>>>>>>>>>> OF NEEDED REPAIRS & IMPROVEMENTS TO U.S. RURAL
>>>>>>>>>>>> ROADS & BRIDGES TOTALS $198 BILLION Eds:
>>>>>>>>>>>> TRIPâs report and appendices include data for
>>>>>>>>>>>> all 50 states for the percentage of rural
>>>>>>>>>>>> roads in poor condition, the percent of
>>>>>>>>>>>> deficient rural bridges, rural traffic
>>>>>>>>>>>> fatality rates and the number of rural
>>>>>>>>>>>> traffic fatalities.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> An analysis of the Status of the Nationâs
>>>>>>>>>>>> Highways, Bridges and Transit Conditions and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Performance Report, 25th Edition report,
>>>>>>>>>>>> submitted by the United States Department of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Transportation (USDOT) to Congress in 2024,
>>>>>>>>>>>> indicates that the U.S. faces a $198 billion
>>>>>>>>>>>> backlog in needed repairs and improvements to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the nationâs rural roads, highways and
>>>>>>>>>>>> bridges. This includes a $97 billion backlog
>>>>>>>>>>>> for rural road and highway rehabilitation, a
>>>>>>>>>>>> $53 billion backlog for needed rural bridge
>>>>>>>>>>>> rehabilitation, and a $48 billion backlog for
>>>>>>>>>>>> needed rural roadway expansions and
>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancements.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yup. What that's saying is that the backlog of
>>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure needs was even bigger than (2017
>>>>>>>>>>> Trump's
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Because:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
>>>>>>>>>> Infrastructure_policy_of_Donald_Trump
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> During his first run for the presidency, Trump
>>>>>>>>>> touted a potential major infrastructure
>>>>>>>>>> initiative. Although both sides of the political
>>>>>>>>>> aisle recognized the need to upgrade American
>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure, no major infrastructure bill was
>>>>>>>>>> passed due to disagreements over the details of
>>>>>>>>>> such a spending package, namely, what to spend on,
>>>>>>>>>> how much to spend, and how to pay for it. In
>>>>>>>>>> general, the aim of the Trump administration was
>>>>>>>>>> to revitalize the national economy and enhance
>>>>>>>>>> national security, despite the tendency of the
>>>>>>>>>> Republican Party to oppose large federal
>>>>>>>>>> expenditures and tax hikes. Members of the
>>>>>>>>>> Democratic Party typically favored investing in
>>>>>>>>>> renewable energy and new infrastructure that could
>>>>>>>>>> begin to combat climate change.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bottom line:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Trump didn't get it done.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Biden did.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And like everything Biden has touched in his
>>>>>>>> political career, it has been a massive failure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://nypost.com/2025/01/10/us-news/biden-to-
>>>>>>>> spend- another-5b-on- infrastructure-after-last-
>>>>>>>> multibillion- dollar- effort-only-set-up-7- ev-
>>>>>>>> charging-stations- report/> ""Biden to spend another
>>>>>>>> $5B on infrastructure â after last multibillion-dollar
>>>>>>>> effort only set up 7 EV charging stations in three
>>>>>>>> years"" "President Biden OKed another $5 billion in
>>>>>>>> infrastructure projects as he heads out the door â
>>>>>>>> even after his last big-money investment went bust
>>>>>>>> over EV charging stations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Factually incorrect on a bunch of levels.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 7 charging stations = just 7.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The actual number is more like 200.
>>>>
>>>> You lie again.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.the-independent.com/climate-change/news/electric-
>>>> vehicle- chargers-biden-infrastructure-b2520740.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> US government builds seven electric vehicle chargers in two
>>>> years. Just another 499,993 to go Despite concerns at the slow
>>>> pace, transport officials say 500,000 public charging stations
>>>> will be available nationwide by 2027
>>>>
>>>> Two years ago, the US government provided $7.5bn to create a
>>>> national network of electric vehicle (EV) charging stations.
>>>> To date, seven have been built.
>>>>
>>>> The money came from the $1 trillion Bipartisan Infrastructure
>>>> Law, signed by President Joe Biden in November 2021, to build
>>>> 500,000 EV chargers by 2030.
>>>>
>>>> But despite concerns from some lawmakers, transport officials
>>>> are confident that half a million will be publicly available
>>>> by 2027, making EV charging âas easy as finding a gas
>>>> stationâ.
>>>>
>>>> The Federal Highway Administration told The Independent that
>>>> the slow pace has been deliberate, to avoid costly mistakes
>>>>
>>> Doofus, when will you and your fellow travellers learn?
>>>
>>> I post when I have the facts:
>>>
>> You lie again.
>>
>> https://www.the-independent.com/climate-change/news/electric-
>> vehicle-chargers-biden-infrastructure-b2520740.html
>>
>>
>> US government builds seven electric vehicle chargers in two years.
>> Just another 499,993 to go Despite concerns at the slow pace,
>> transport officials say 500,000 public charging stations will be
>> available nationwide by 2027
>>
>> Two years ago, the US government provided $7.5bn to create a
>> national network of electric vehicle (EV) charging stations. To
>> date, seven have been built.
>>
>> The money came from the $1 trillion Bipartisan Infrastructure Law,
>> signed by President Joe Biden in November 2021, to build 500,000
>> EV chargers by 2030.
>>
>> But despite concerns from some lawmakers, transport officials are
>> confident that half a million will be publicly available by 2027,
>> making EV charging âas easy as finding a gas stationâ.
>>
>> The Federal Highway Administration told The Independent that the
>> slow pace has been deliberate, to avoid costly mistakes
>>
>
> And Pete Buttegieg was pressed on this issue during an interview
> with Margret Brennan, a Trump hater, and he could not defend it. So
> why didn't he accuse her of lying?
>
> Answer: because at the time, in 2024, it was true.
>
> <https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2024/05/26/
> cbss_brennan_to_buttigieg_how_is_it_possible_that_75_billion_investment_has_only_produced_7_or_8_ev_charging_stations_so_far.html>
>
>
>
You get that time is a progression, right?
'CLAIM: The Biden administration spent $7.5 billion to build eight
electric vehicle charging stations.
THE FACTS: Thatâs incorrect. The $7.5 billion figure refers to the total
amount allocated through the 2021 law to build a network of charging
stations across the U.S., not the amount that has already been spent.
There are currently 214 operational chargers in 12 states that have been
funded through the law, with 24,800 projects underway across the
country, according to the Federal Highway Administration.'
<https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-electric-vehicle-charging-stations-75-billion-buttigieg-1ddcd6ee193fc1847e5401c95c016ec3>
'Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg called the claims spreading
online âfalseâ in a series of X posts.
â$7.5B has not been spent, nor anything like that,â he wrote, adding
that federally funded chargers are built by individual states, not the
federal government, and that most will be built in the second half of
the 2020s.'
Your source is from May of 2024 and quite a lot can happen in the 6
months between your source and mine.
214 operational chargers
24,800 projects under way.
$7.5 billion not yet spent.