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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Both Presidents Obama And Biden Said They Wanted To End Waste In
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2025 14:49:00 -0800
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2025-02-23 14:17, pothead wrote:
> On 2025-02-23, Mercy-a-lago <run@no.spam> wrote:
>> On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 22:36:20 -0500
>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 15:17:52 -0700, Mercy-a-lago <run@no.spam> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 13:38:02 -0800
>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>> On 2025-02-22 13:03, pothead wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-02-22, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2025-02-22 12:38, Mercy-a-lago wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 12:32:00 -0800 Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-22 09:15, tye syding wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Feb 2025 19:02:55 -0800 Siri Cruise
>>>>>>>>>> <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> Musk's political hit squad. He declares as waste his
>>>>>>>>>>> political enemies. He lies and declares waste which you
>>>>>>>>>>> cretins
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Stupid meth whore.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/politics/doge-takes-chainsaw-federal-
>>>>>>>>>> spending-7-major-victories-week-got-done
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> DOGE finds a nearly untraceable budget line item responsible
>>>>>>>>>> for $4.7T in payments Earlier this week, DOGE announced it
>>>>>>>>>> had discovered an identification code linking U.S. Treasury
>>>>>>>>>> payments to a budget line item, which accounts for nearly
>>>>>>>>>> $4.7 trillion in payments, that was oftentimes left blank.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "The Treasury Access Symbol (TAS) is an identification code
>>>>>>>>>> linking a Treasury payment to a budget line item (standard
>>>>>>>>>> financial process)," DOGE wrote in a post on X.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "In the Federal Government, the TAS field was optional for
>>>>>>>>>> ~$4.7 Trillion in payments and was often left blank, making
>>>>>>>>>> traceability almost impossible. As of Saturday, this is now a
>>>>>>>>>> required field, increasing insight into where money is
>>>>>>>>>> actually going."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The agency thanked the U.S. Treasury for its work in
>>>>>>>>>> identifying the optional field.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> According to the Bureau of the Fiscal Service, which is under
>>>>>>>>>> the Treasury, TAS codes are used to describe any one of the
>>>>>>>>>> account identification codes assigned by the Treasury and are
>>>>>>>>>> also referred to as the "account."
>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "$4.7 Trillion" so scary.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My question:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Over what period of time?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What part of _almost impossible tracing_ got past you?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2025/02/17/us-news/doge-discovers-4-7-trillion-in-
>>>>>>>> treasury-payments-were-missing-critical-code/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) announced Monday
>>>>>>>> that some $4.7 trillion in payments from the Treasury
>>>>>>>> Department were missing a critical tracking code, which made
>>>>>>>> tracing the transactions “almost impossible.”
>>>>>>> What part of "over what period of time" confused you?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are obviously individual records of expenditures.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those records allegedly lack a particular code.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does that mean they aren't dated?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It means they are difficult if not impossible to track/trace.
>>>>> As to their PURPOSE, perhaps (assuming we're getting all the facts.
>>>>>
>>>>> But obviously, there is an amount being claimed for each of the
>>>>> records found.
>>>>>
>>>>> And those records almost certainly have dates, so I ask again:
>>>>>
>>>>> Over what time period?
>>>>
>>>> Do you ever relent to reality?
>>>>
>>>> "The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) announced Monday
>>>> that some $4.7 trillion in payments from the Treasury Department
>>>> were missing a critical tracking code, which made tracing the
>>>> transactions “almost impossible.”
>>>
>>> To repeat:  Over what time period?
>>
>> "$4.7 trillion in payments from the Treasury Department
>> were missing a critical tracking code, which made tracing the
>> transactions “almost impossible.”
>>
>>
> Newsmax had a forensic accountant on today and he discussed this very topic.
> The tracking code number ties the check or transaction to a specific budget line item, so
> what fund is it coming from and where is it going specifically.
> Without the tracking number it's pretty much impossible to determine what the money
> was for, where it was taken from and where it went.
And again, I ask:

Over what time period.

As far as I can tell, the TAS code has been in use since about 2009.

And there no suggestion that the $4.7 trillion is from one year or even 
one administration.

Why do you think they'd hold that back?