From: Mercy-a-lago <run@no.spam>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Another Left-Wing Lie Site
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2025 17:09:41 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 15:59:39 -0800
Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2025-02-23 15:54, Mercy-a-lago wrote:
> > On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 15:37:20 -0800
> > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> > =20
> >> On 2025-02-23 15:33, Mercy-a-lago wrote: =20
> >>> On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 15:29:52 -0800
> >>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >>> =20
> >>>> On 2025-02-23 13:55, Mercy-a-lago wrote: =20
> >>>>> On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 13:49:47 -0800
> >>>>> Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>> =20
> >>>>>> -hh wrote: =20
> >>>>>>> On 2/23/25 14:40, Mercy-a-lago wrote: =20
> >>>>>>>> On Sun, 23 Feb 2025 10:49:53 -0800
> >>>>>>>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> =20
> >>>>>>>>> On 2025-02-23 10:44, Mercy-a-lago wrote: =20
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 22:12:39 -0500
> >>>>>>>>>> Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote: =20
> >>>>>>>>>>> There is a difference between natural climate cycles and
> >>>>>>>>>>> what's happening now. =20
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The magnetosphere is down over 30%.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Cite where that fluctuation is "natural".
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> What happens when it hits zero? =20
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Cite that that's a fact. =20
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Answer where the magnetosphere is now and why the
> >>>>>>>> measurements stopped
> >>>>>>>> being shared.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Northern lights in the south much?
> >>>>>>>> =20
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The aurora borealis occurs in the Arctic,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The aurora australis occurs in Antarctica.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -hh =20
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Aurora randomlis will appear everywhere and the magnetic field
> >>>>>> becomes chaotic.
> >>>>>> =20
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Already occurring:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/why-the-northern-lights-are-being=
-seen-further-south
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-10880852
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.foxcarolina.com/page/why-are-the-northern-lights-moving=
-south/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/northern-lig=
hts-why-were-they-visible-further-south-than-normal/5881243/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> =20
> >>>>
> >>>> Each one address and not one so much as mentioned a weakening
> >>>> magnetic field as a cause. =20
> >>>
> >>> You can use your EYES to SEE the results, ya terminally dim bulb!
> >>>
> >>> Damn, one would think a canucklehead would know some of this.
> >>> =20
> >>
> >> The northern lights have been seen further south because of
> >> extremely strong solar flares. =20
> >=20
> > Nope.
> >=20
> > They were far less than the Carington event. =20
> How would the fact that they were less than an earlier event matter?
I'm actually GLAD you asked that!
Because their visibility far south demonstrates how far the
magnetosphere has weakened!
See...you can do this, bunny.
> During the Carington event the northern lights were seen MUCH farther=20
> south than the last couple of solar flare events.
It was a much bigger event after all.
https://www.swsc-journal.org/articles/swsc/pdf/2013/01/swsc130015.pdf
The solar flare on 1 September 1859 and its associated geomagnetic storm re=
main the standard for an extreme solar-terrestrial
event. The most recent estimates of the flare soft X-ray (SXR) peak intensi=
ty and Dst magnetic storm index for this event are:
SXR class =3D X45 (=C2=B15) (vs. X35 (=C2=B15) for the 4 November 2003 flar=
e) and minimum Dst =3D 900 (+50, 150) nT (vs. 825 to
900 nT for the great storm of May 1921). We have no direct evidence of an a=
ssociated solar energetic proton (SEP) event
but a correlation between >30 MeV SEP fluence (F30) and flare size based on=
modern data yields a best guess F30 value of
~1.1 =C2=B7 1010 pr cm2 (with the =C2=B11r uncertainty spanning a range fro=
m ~109
=E2=80=931011 pr cm2
) for a composite (multi-flare plus shock)
1859 event. This value is approximately twice that of estimates/measurement=
s =E2=80=93 ranging from ~5=E2=80=937 =C2=B7 109 pr cm2 =E2=80=93 for the l=
argest
SEP episodes (July 1959, November 1960, August 1972) in the modern era.
But of course we have even more Aurora displays down to the equator
this time.
=20
> Places like south-central Mexico and Cuba.
Right, and not long ago:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiecartereurope/2023/04/24/in-photos-norther=
n-lights-seen-as-far-as-us-mexico-border-as-massive-solar-storm-arrives/
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2024-05-11/auroras-dazzle-in-lat=
in-america-as-solar-storm-causes-rare-displays
A view shows the lights of an aurora australis caused by a geomagnetic stor=
m over Villarrica volcano, in Pucon, Chile May 10, 2024. REUTERS/Cristobal =
Saavedra Escobar
MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - The biggest geomagnetic storm in two decades, spark=
ed by solar flares, caused dazzling lights displays in parts of Latin Ameri=
ca overnight on Friday, including a rare appearance in Mexico.
In Mexicali, a desert city on Mexico's northern border thousands of miles f=
rom the Arctic regions where the northern lights are common, gradients of p=
ink and purple illuminated the night sky.
The civil protection agency in Mexicali's state of Baja California said
more auroras could be visible on Saturday evening.
You should quit while you're losing, moron.