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From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Another Left-Wing Lie Site
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 18:29:18 -0600
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.


On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 14:40:21 -0800,  Alan says...  

> 
> On 2025-02-24 14:20, AlleyCat wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 10:51:56 -0800,  Alan says...
> > 
> >> 
> >> On 2025-02-22 16:50, AlleyCat wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> On Sat, 22 Feb 2025 16:40:51 -0800,  Alan says...
> >>> 
> >>>>> Not all, not in the southern hemisphere
> >>>> 
> >>>> But as your own source confirmed the "vast majority" are
> >>>> melting.
> >>>> 
> >>> 
> >>> So?
> >>> 
> >>> And?
> >>> 
> >>> Prove man is responsible.
> > 
> >> Let's be clear: you admit that it is HAPPENING, correct?

Prove man is responsible.
 
> > Warming?

Prove man is responsible.
 
> > Same as before.

Prove man is responsible.
 
> The vast majority of glaciers are receding.

Prove man is responsible.

> That is factual, correct?

Prove man is responsible.

What do expect, when temps are warming back up to where they were before The Little Ice Age?

https://i.imgur.com/f64pC0K.jpg

Not because of man.

The Little Ice Age was a brutal and a miserable time for humanity, but none-the-less the IPCC has chosen to measure and define "climate change" using the global average surface temperature change 
from that period. They talk about dangers if we exceed 1.5 to 2 degrees above the "pre-industrial" period. These numerical limits have no scientific basis, but they set them anyway.

Then they have the problem of the Holocene Climatic Optimum. This period from roughly 8,000BC to 4,200BC (see figure 1) is widely thought to have been warmer than today based on glacial advance and 
retreat data, and insolation models of temperatures around the world (figure 2). There has been an attempt to claim that the Holocene Climatic Optimum was actually colder than today by Bova, et al. 
(2021), but the paper has drawn two serious criticisms (see Laepple, et al.,2022 and Zhang & Chen,2021 in the bibliography) and undergone a major revision. Bova, et al. is not very credible, and it 
is likely that the method they used was deeply flawed. A previous post on this paper appeared in WUWT here, it was written before the critical responses were published by Nature.

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THIS Is Why Chicken Shit Chicken Littles Screech About Climate And Weather And Global Warbling:

The UN Makes it Official: Global Warming Hysteria Is All About Redistributing Wealth

UN IPCC Official Admits 'We Redistribute World's Wealth By Climate Policy' 

Global Study Reveals Wealth Redistribution From Blue-Carbon Ecosystems

Failed Climate Policies Are About Wealth Redistribution 

"We Redistribute De Facto The World's Wealth By Climate Policy."

How Global Warming Has Made The Rich Richer
https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20190502-how-global-warming-has-made-the-rich-richer

The U.N.'s Global Warming War On Capitalism: An Important History Lesson
https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/01/22/the-u-n-s-global-warming-war-on-capitalism-an-important-history-lesson-2/?sh=4f89a2d429be

The Doha Wealth Redistribution Process Moves On
https://townhall.com/columnists/davidrothbard/2012/12/14/the-doha-wealth-redistribution-process-moves-on-n1465410

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"There is no doubt, that we need to have a complete transformation... the transformation of the economy, and that includes, of course, the private sector."

A carbon tax will change NOTHING, other than the wealth of politicians and countries who beg us for money. THAT was the  purpose of the Paris Accord... the ONLY purpose.

Funny... when the government no longer pays for bogus money-grabbing data, the truth comes out.

"It's all about money in the end. Keeping the Gravy Train running."
https://youtu.be/J9Oi7x2OBdI?t=74

"And we're like... the world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change..."

AOC's Top Aide Admits Green New Deal About The Economy, Not Climate
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aocs-top-aide-admits-green-new-deal-
about-the-economy-not-the-climate

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's chief of staff recently admitted that the Green New Deal was not conceived as an effort to deal with climate change, but instead a "how-do-you-change-the-entire 
economy thing" -- a remark likely to fuel Republican claims that the deal is nothing more than a thinly veiled socialist takeover of the U.S. economy. "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal 
is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all," Saikat Chakrabarti said in May, according to The Washington Post.

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UN Official Admits That Climate Change Used As A Ruse To Control The World's Economy
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/diabolical-lie-called-climate-change-used-
un-promote-economic-agenda/

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"Unequal Distribution of Wealth and Power" Causes Climate Change
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/11/un-climate-summit-causes-of-
climate-change-unequal-distribution-of-wealth-and-power/

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U.N. Official Reveals Real Reason Behind Warming Scare 
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/climate-change-scare-tool-to-
destroy-capitalism/

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Another Climate Alarmist Admits Real Motive Behind Warming Scare 
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/another-climate-alarmist-
admits-real-motive-behind-warming-scare/

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United Nations Official Admits the Purpose of the Global Warming Hoax is to Destroy Capitalism
http://lubbockonline.com/interact/blog-post/donald-r-may/2015-02-
27/united-nations-official-admits-purpose-global-warming#.V-nGUOM1HmE