From: Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Trump Has A Sharpie, And Was EXACTLY Right About Hurricane Dorian
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 05:48:11 -0700
Organization: UTB
In article <vq2fq7$sthq$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com says...
>
> On 2025-03-01 16:43, AlleyCat wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 1 Mar 2025 12:18:19 -0800, Alan says...
> >
> >>> What, EXACTLY, was he trying to convey and WHY?
> >>
> >> He made an error.
> >
> > WHAT "error"?
>
> He stated:
>
> 'In addition to Florida - South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia, and
> Alabama, will most likely be hit (much) harder than anticipated.'
>
> He stated that on September 1, 2019 at 10:51am EST.
>
> At that time, the latest available track information for Dorian looked
> like this:
>
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iSigs7UM-fbcUS8O8NWcB2dJd9ZcHnEb/view?usp=share_link>
>
> You can see that for yourself here:
>
> <https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2019/DORIAN_graphics.php?product=5day_cone_with_line>
>
> >
> > The NOAA backed him up. It was no error... this was no boating
> > accident. And it wasn't any propeller. It wasn't any coral reef. And
> > it wasn't Jack the Ripper. It was a hurricane.
>
> The probability of Alabama being hit by winds as I as
> "tropical-storm-force winds" (i.e. ">= 39mph") as less than 10%.
>
> That's reflected in this graphic:
>
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pL5HYtwQqrGgTCvG4vSKYwKWuhgbf5nk/view?usp=share_link>
>
> Which comes from THIS site:
>
> <https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2019/DORIAN_graphics.php?product=wind_probs_34_F120>
>
> So on the day he made the tweet, there was a SMALL chance that Alabama
> would be "hit" by high winds.
>
> But that's not hurricane force winds, is it?
>
> Raise the wind speed to the next level that NOAA charts (i.e. >=58mph),
> and by 8am EST there was essentially no chance that Alabama would be
> experiencing winds of that speed...
>
> <https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2019/DORIAN_graphics.php?product=wind_probs_50_F120>
>
> ...and that's STILL not hurricane force winds.
>
> Hurricane force winds are windows of speeds greater than or equal to
> 64kts...
>
> ...and guess what: NOAA tracks hurricane force winds!
>
> <https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2019/DORIAN_graphics.php?product=wind_probs_64_F120>
>
> At 8am, Sunday, September 1, 2019--just under 3 hours before Trump made
> his erroneous tweet--there was ZERO chance that any hurricane force
> winds would impact Alabama.
>
> >
> > Why are you being such a chicken shit? If Trump had had the latest
> > path "report", then WHY would have used the map they gave him, and
> > WHY would he draw a cone that simply extended the path HE thought
> > the hurricane was on?
>
> Because he's a narcissistic liar who can't possibly imagine just
> admitting he made a mistake.
>
> >
> > WHY would Trump, IF he had updated reports, CARE if Dorian MIGHT hit
> > Alabama and Mississippi?
> >
> > There was NOTHING to gain, politically.
>
> He made a mistake.
>
> >
> > I'm not going to come off this.
> >
> > Tell us WHY. WHY did Trump DO this, in the first place. And
> > secondly, WHY does it matter? He made no error. The NOAA backed him
> > up. With the information he had, he simply drew an extended cone.
> > HAD Dorian not changed course, there would NOT have been a big deal,
> > but those with TDS can't stop making fun of nothing.
>
> The NOAA was playing political games.
>
> When Trump tweeted the National Weather Service said this:
>
> ?We repeat, no impacts from Hurricane #Dorian will be felt across
> Alabama. The system will remain too far east.?
>
> >
> >> The problem is that he didn't want to ADMIT to having made an
> >> error.
> >
> > There WAS no "error".
>
> There was an error.
>
> >
> > His staff didn't give him updated information, so he was spot on,
> > with what he had.
>
> Then just say that.
>
> Instead, he doctored up a chart from 3 and a half days before his tweet
> with a Sharpie.
No ammo huh?