From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Ironic Ukrainian
Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 18:37:34 -0600
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On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 11:30:06 -0800, Alan says...
> Subject: Re: Ironic Ukrainian
> From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2025 11:30:06 -0800
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> On 2025-03-02 17:26, AlleyCat wrote:
> >
> > Zelenskyy says that if Lindsey Graham wants him to resign, he should become a citizen so that "his voice will gain weight."
> >
> > The irony, of course, is that no Ukrainian's voice holds weight on Zelenskyy being president, since he won't dare hold an election.
> >
> > Zelenskyy's an Azov Nazi, VERY similar to HITLER!
> The Ukrainian constitution doesn't allow for elections in time of war, Phil.
No...
The Ukrainian Constitution states that elections for the presidential office of Ukraine, Ukraine's parliamentary body the Verkhovna Rada, the Verkhovna Rada of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and
local self-government bodies, are prohibited under martial law... not just war.
Doesn't matter. He's using it as an excuse to stay in power, KNOWING he'd get booted.
Why was there a question of PAYING for an election, if their Constitution wouldn't allow it?
Because Zelenskyy's considering changing law (code) to have an election, so YOUR point is moot.
"I told [Graham]: If the United States and Europe gives us financial support... I'm sorry, I will not hold elections on credit, I will not take money from weapons and give it to elections either. But
IF YOU GIVE ME THIS FINANCIAL SUPPORT... THEN LET'S QUICKLY CHANGE THE LEGISLATION and most importantly, let's take risks together,' Zelensky said.
He's willing to have an election, regardless of what their constitution says, so what YOU say is moot.
Fact Check: Is Zelensky Refusing to Hold Ukraine Election Unless U.S. Pays? - Newsweek
Fact check: true
"Observers should be in the trenches. I told him: observers must be sent to the frontline so that THE ELECTIONS are legitimate for us and for the whole world. And this is absolutely fair."
During the interview, Zelensky said he had told Graham that $135 million was needed to carry out the election during wartime. As Rugg mentions, the operation would require election observers to be
sent to the frontline to ensure voting was fair.
WHY would he have told Graham ANYTHING about an election, if their Constitution prohibited that? Zelenskyy's basically saying, screw the Constitution... we'll have an election, if we pay for it.
Zelensky also said the move would also require the electoral code to be changed for the contest to go ahead as fighting continues, adding that money could not be taken from the military budget
"stipulated by law."
The Ukrainian president added that his government would need to "open up appropriate opportunities" so that refugees who had fled the country could also take part.
"We need every vote. We won't be able to say for ourselves that this was a very democratic election," Zelensky said during the interview.
"We need a legitimate choice. We need this choice to be made by society. So that it does not divide our people. We need the military to be able to vote.
"They are defending this democracy today, and not giving them this opportunity because of the war is unfair. I was against the elections only because of this issue."
So... he IS considering an election, REGARDLESS of their Constitution.
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