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On 2025-03-12, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2025-03-12 14:19, pothead wrote:
>> On 2025-03-12, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2025-03-12 13:56, pothead wrote:
>>>> On 2025-03-12, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-03-12 11:14, -hh wrote:
>>>>>> On 3/8/Internal Democrat Polling Shows Party in Complete Brand Collapse25 21:30, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 18:12:53 -0800,  Alan says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-03-08 18:03, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 11:55:25 -0800,  Alan says...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-03-07 21:31, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> President Trump: "What we're doing is freeing up our forests from
>>>>>>>>>>> the environmental nonsense that they put on them, where you can't
>>>>>>>>>>> cut down a tree."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Canada has been ripping us off for years on tariffs for lumber!"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://x.com/i/status/1898058946339897426
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Quick question:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Who negotiated and signed the current trade deal between the US,
>>>>>>>>>> Canada
>>>>>>>>>> and Mexico?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Quick question:
>>>>>>>>> Who kept, for 4 years, the negotiated and signed current trade deal
>>>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>>> the US, Canada and Mexico, which will no longer BE current, because
>>>>>>>>> it is
>>>>>>>>> outdated and needs to be amended?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Time to sign a different one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I told you... We Don't NEED Your Lumber, rich boy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who was it who negotiated it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But, was it really?
>>>>>>>> Hint: it's the same guy who's now claiming it was a terrible deal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It is... because it's outdated and needs to be amended.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny how that's not what what he signed said.  As signed, the USMCA was
>>>>>> for a 14 year term (renewable), which would be through December 2033.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And while some changes can of course be negotiated prior to that, the
>>>>>> basic structure necessitates that they only be minor ones, because the
>>>>>> business investment needs are based on time horizons of easily a decade
>>>>>> if not longer.  Case in point, one would want the USMCA to be renewed at
>>>>>> least once (eg, 28 years) for having adequate ramp for applying
>>>>>> depreciation IAW GAAP in one's corporate business planning.
>>>>> And Trump just tweeted... ...sorry, he just "truthed":
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Why would our Country allow another Country to supply us with
>>>>> electricity, even for a small area? Who made these decisions, and why?'
>>>>
>>>> Trump is correct.
>>>> Unless absolutely necessary.
>>>> When the US depends upon other countries for needed goods then it gives
>>>> up all control.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think is going to happen to the myriad of products, say prescription
>>>> drugs for example, if the USA gets in a war with China?
>>> Trump negotiated and ratified the current trade deal with Canada (and
>>> Mexico) which includes the terms under which the Canada and the US trade
>>> in electricity.
>>>
>>> Furthermore, he is only abrogating the terms of that deal by declaring
>>> an "economic emergency"...
>>>
>>> ...and the US congress has had to declare that days are not really days
>>> anymore so that that declaration can go on without end.
>> 
>> And it doesn't matter a hill of beans,
>> Times change and deals may need to be renegotiated.
>> Ever hear of actors, especially child actors, signing deals that they
>> ended up renegotiating later because things changed?
>
> So you're saying Trump had the capacity of a child when he signed the USMCA?
>
> I can accept that.
>
>> 
>> Carter sold the Panama canal for $1.00 after many Americans lost their lives
>> building it.
>
> How do those deaths justify it's control in perpetuity by the United States?
>
>> Maybe back then it seemed harmless but it no longer is as China is literally
>> circling the place.
>
> Funny you should mention.
>
> Many Chinese workers died building the transcontinental railroad, so 
> should China not a have at least some control in perpetuity of your 
> railroads?
>
>> 
>> Again, depend upon foreign entities for critical needs and you give up control
>> and thus become weak and vulnerable.
>
> Not giving up control of territories when the local inhabitants want you 
> out makes you an aggressor.

Score: -9999 for you again.
Try staying on topic next time.

-- 
pothead
Liberalism is a mental disease.
When you trim the fat, the pig squeals.
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