From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics
Subject: Re: I Told You Rich Kid - We Don't NEED Your Lumber
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2025 17:43:05 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-03-13 16:41, pothead wrote:
> On 2025-03-13, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 20:56:30 -0000 (UTC), pothead
>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Trump is correct.
>>> Unless absolutely necessary.
>>> When the US depends upon other countries for needed goods then it gives
>>> up all control.
>>>
>>> What do you think is going to happen to the myriad of products, say prescription
>>> drugs for example, if the USA gets in a war with China?
>>
>> That's *exactly* why trade is good and why the US has spent the past
>> eighty or so years evolving free trade. Each nation becomes too
>> dependent on the others to risk going to war with them.
>
> True, but for various reasons "free trade" is no longer equal and equitable.
> China in particular devaluing their currency is one example.
> How does the US compete with a country that is effectively using slave labor?
Hmmmm... ...you know who CHOOSES to buy those Chinese products, right?
And who CHOOSES to move their manufacturing there?
>
>> If a nation is your only source of wheat, you dare not invade them.
>> When you're their only source of corn, they dare not invade you.
>
> It comes down to a matter of priorities. So do we need Nike sneakers from China
> or do we need prescription drugs. And what do they need from the USA?
> they get to choose as well.
Tell me:
Where is Nike's headquarters?
>
>
>
>> It amazes me that the Magas and haters don't get that. It's as if
>> they'd rather live in a combative world risking war than to play nice
>> with the other kids.
>
> People, including Trump want FAIR TRADE. Why should goods we export to some country
> have taxes, tariffs on them that are high while goods they export to the USA
> do not?
Give an example.
>
> The same applies to NATO. Countries need to pay their fair share assuming of course
> they are able of doing such.
> IMHO NATO needs to be updated. It's a cold war agreement that is getting stale.
>
>
>
>> The supreme example of 'trade is good' is that there has not been a
>> war between major powers since 1945.
>
> True, however as I've stated above, things have changed drastically in recent times.
> China wants to dominate the world, no secret, and the USA at least under Biden
> has been falling right into the trap. China's only interest in renewable energy
> is selling stuff to the USA and making us dependent upon it.
> Rare earth minerals, batteries, as well as other green energy materials.
> This is suicide IMHO.
> Especially since we are sitting on decades worth of fossil fuels.
>
> Fair trade will benefit all.
You're seeing the "benefits" already...
...with an economy that was going strong suddenly predicted to go into
recession.