From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Bet They Never Thought of This
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 17:14:03 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
Biden's Pardons Of Fauci, Cheney, Schiff Won't Cover Lying To Congress
President Joe Biden's pardons may have cast a dark cloud over those who received them because they can no longer hide from
telling the truth.
The fact that people like Dr. Anthony Fauci and former Republican Rep. Liz Cheney were granted pardons means that they cannot use
their Fifth Amendment protections to avoid testifying to Congress, according to a new report. And if they were to lie to
Congress, they would not be covered by their pardons for that crime, it said.
"The thing is, about these pardons, they're a mistake. If you want to know what's happening, they just made it a lot easier for
us to find out," Journalist Matt Taibbi noted in a recent interview.
"Now, once the pardon's delivered, the person can't plead the Fifth. If they are brought before a grand jury, they can't take the
Fifth anymore, or if they're brought before a congressional committee, they can't evoke their right against self-incrimination,
so they have to say something," he said.
"And this is what's so interesting because I've been talking to criminal defense attorneys, people who are former Senate
investigators, some current Senate investigators, and they all kind of said the same thing. It's so illogical to give somebody a
pardon if you're trying to cover up things that the only reason you would really do it is if there are very serious crimes
involved, right?" the journalist said.
"So that's a red flag for us. When we see somebody getting a pardon, we think, well, why would they do that unless there's
something really bad there, right? So either it's a mistake where they just stupidly made It easier for everybody to investigate,
or there's something we don't know about [and] that is interesting," he said.
And Taibbi isn't alone in predicting that the preemptive pardons for Fauci, Cheney, and members of Joe Biden's family might not
protect them from all future legal actions.
Federal litigation attorney Jesse Binnall also pointed out previously that Biden's pardons do not shield anyone from consequences
if they lie under oath, should the GOP-controlled Congress subpoena them to testify. In his words, the pardons could be "great
news" for anyone seeking to see the two prosecuted.
"The pardons are actually great news. No one who was just pardoned will be able to refuse to testify in a civil, criminal, or
congressional proceeding based upon the 5th Amendment," Binnall wrote on X, before dropping another truth bomb.
"And let's just be realistic. Most of these disgusting individuals would probably have to be charged in Washington, DC, which
doesn't convict partisan leftists," Binnall, also a former attorney for President Donald Trump, wrote.
Other X users offered a potential solution to the problem of liberal bias in DC, including retired U.S. Army officer, lawyer, and
author Kurt Schlichter.
"This is key - the depositions and the actual testimony must take place outside of Washington DC. Washington DC is a biased venue
that will not convict Democrats when they commit perjury. Accordingly, take this show on the road," he wrote.
Others who received Sunday night pardons were former Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman and Army Gen. Mark Milley, who later
criticized Trump during his first term and all other members of the J6 committee.
Trump specifically addressed Biden's pardon of Cheney while he was signing executive orders in the Oval Office last month.
"I was going to talk about the things that Joe did today with the pardons of people that were very, very guilty of very bad
crimes, like the unselect committee of political folks," he told assembled reporters, referring to the Jan. 6 panel.
"Why are we doing this? Why are we trying to help a guy like Milley? Why are we helping Liz Cheney?" he asked. "I mean, Liz
Cheney is a disaster. She's a crying lunatic and crying, crying."
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"Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition
All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS.
"Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike
of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."
Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into
three distinct phases or stages:
"In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm,
as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world."
"The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting
solely of hyperbole."
"As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality."
The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the knee-jerk opposition from liberals to anything and everything
Trump does. If Trump announced he was donating every dollar he's ever made, TDS sufferers would suggest he was up to something
nefarious, according to the logic of TDS. There's nothing - not. one. thing. - that Trump could do or say that would be received
positively by TDSers.
The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the early 2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was
a punch line for late-night comics and nothing more.
Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first coined by the late conservative columnist Charles
Krauthammer back in 2003. The condition, as Krauthammer defined it, was "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people
in reaction to the policies, the presidency - nay - the very existence of George W. Bush."