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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Can You Tell Us WHY You Want Illegal Alien Gang Members To Have
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 11:53:58 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2025-04-14 17:35, AlleyCat wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 16:40:02 -0700,  Alan says...
> 
>> 
>> On 2025-04-14 16:13, AlleyCat wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 15:29:15 -0700,  Alan says...
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2025-04-14 15:14, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can You Tell Us WHY You Want Illegal Alien Gang Members To
>>>>> Have Due Process And Stay In America?
>>>> 
>>>> Because every "person" is guaranteed it by the US
>>>> constitution.
>>> 
>>> Bu bu but it'ssss a living Constitution, open for amending and 
>>> interpretation, sayeth the liberals.
>>> 
>>> It's an old out-of-date document. We can change it.
>>> 
>>> There.
> 
> What if 20 million Mexicans crossed YOUR borders, would you grant
> each and every one of them "due process", knowing it would cost 
> Canadians ONE TRILLION DOLLARS?

Let's deal with a crap ton of your bullshit.

First of all, there aren't "20 million Mexicans" illegal immigrants in 
the US. There aren't even 20 million illegal immigrants in total.

In 2022, the DHS estimated that there were about 11 million.

"In summary, the Office of Homeland Security Statistics (OHSS) estimates 
11.0 million unauthorized immigrants were living in the United States on 
January 1, 2022"

<https://web.archive.org/web/20240515161826/https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2024-05/2024_0418_ohss_estimates-of-the-unauthorized-immigrant-population-residing-in-the-united-states-january-2018–january-2022.pdf>

(And naturally, that PDF disappeared from the DHS website when Trump's 
junta came to power).

Secondly, Biden managed to deport more illegal immigrants during his 
term and Trump did during his first term.


> 
> Methinks your fellow Canadians would NOT go for that.
> 
> Rounding up all illegal immigrants and providing them with trials
> could cost governments nearly $1 trillion, with estimates suggesting
> at least $88 billion per year for processing and removal of one
> million undocumented immigrants. Additionally, the current
> immigration court system would require significant expansion to
> handle the backlog of cases, further increasing costs.

Let's do a little arithmetic for you:

$88 billion / 1 million = $88,000 per person.

Now divide $1 trillion by $88,000 and you get:

11,363,636

So you were bright enough to notice that your copied and pasted source 
here contradicts that "20 million" figure you claimed above.


> 
> Fuck you Canadian, unless YOU, rich boy, wanna help us pay for that.
> 
>> Until you change it, it is the law of the land.
> 
> Show us the law where illegal invaders get due process.

5th amendment: "no PERSON"

> 
> Make sure the language is correct, because I can't find it.
> 
> Not in the Constitution, anyway.
> 
> "Illegal Immigrant" - Phrase not found.
> 
> "Illegal Alien" - Phrase not found.
> 
> "Invader" - phrase not found (see below)
 > > Don't bother with he 5th.

Why because you don't like that it says "person"?

> 
> "Just because you don't see a judge doesn't mean you aren't
> receiving due process."
> 
> In some cases, immigrants are not granted a hearing at all. When
> asked about the president's tweet, White House Press Secretary Sarah
> Sanders pointed to the process of "expedited removal," which was
> created by the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant 
> Responsibility Act of 1996.
> 
> Under the expedited removal process, immigrants who have been in the
> country illegally for less than two years and are apprehended within
> 100 miles of the border can be deported almost immediately without
> going through a court hearing.
> 
> WHO was President in 1996?

I don't care.

If a law is in conflict with the US constitution, the law loses.

(And no one is impressed with your ability to copy and paste).