From: Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Can You Tell Us WHY You Want Illegal Alien Gang Members To Have Due Process And Stay In America?
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 14:57:38 -0600
Organization: UTB
In article <vtma07$57th$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
says...
>
> On 2025-04-14 17:35, AlleyCat wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 16:40:02 -0700, Alan says...
> >
> >>
> >> On 2025-04-14 16:13, AlleyCat wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 15:29:15 -0700, Alan says...
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2025-04-14 15:14, AlleyCat wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can You Tell Us WHY You Want Illegal Alien Gang Members To
> >>>>> Have Due Process And Stay In America?
> >>>>
> >>>> Because every "person" is guaranteed it by the US
> >>>> constitution.
> >>>
> >>> Bu bu but it'ssss a living Constitution, open for amending and
> >>> interpretation, sayeth the liberals.
> >>>
> >>> It's an old out-of-date document. We can change it.
> >>>
> >>> There.
> >
> > What if 20 million Mexicans crossed YOUR borders, would you grant
> > each and every one of them "due process", knowing it would cost
> > Canadians ONE TRILLION DOLLARS?
>
> Let's deal with a crap ton of your bullshit.
>
> First of all, there aren't "20 million Mexicans" illegal immigrants in
> the US. There aren't even 20 million illegal immigrants in total.
>
> In 2022, the DHS estimated that there were about 11 million.
>
> "In summary, the Office of Homeland Security Statistics (OHSS) estimates
> 11.0 million unauthorized immigrants were living in the United States on
> January 1, 2022"
>
> <https://web.archive.org/web/20240515161826/https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2024-05/2024_0418_ohss_estimates-of-the-unauthorized-immigrant-population-residing-in-the-united-states-january-2018?january-2022.pdf>
>
> (And naturally, that PDF disappeared from the DHS website when Trump's
> junta came to power).
Bullshit.
>
> Secondly, Biden managed to deport more illegal immigrants during his
> term and Trump did during his first term.
Proof?
>
>
> >
> > Methinks your fellow Canadians would NOT go for that.
> >
> > Rounding up all illegal immigrants and providing them with trials
> > could cost governments nearly $1 trillion, with estimates suggesting
> > at least $88 billion per year for processing and removal of one
> > million undocumented immigrants. Additionally, the current
> > immigration court system would require significant expansion to
> > handle the backlog of cases, further increasing costs.
>
> Let's do a little arithmetic for you:
>
> $88 billion / 1 million = $88,000 per person.
>
> Now divide $1 trillion by $88,000 and you get:
>
> 11,363,636
>
> So you were bright enough to notice that your copied and pasted source
> here contradicts that "20 million" figure you claimed above.
>
>
> >
> > Fuck you Canadian, unless YOU, rich boy, wanna help us pay for that.
> >
> >> Until you change it, it is the law of the land.
> >
> > Show us the law where illegal invaders get due process.
>
> 5th amendment: "no PERSON"
They broke the law when they crossed. Guilty.
>
> >
> > Make sure the language is correct, because I can't find it.
> >
> > Not in the Constitution, anyway.
> >
> > "Illegal Immigrant" - Phrase not found.
> >
> > "Illegal Alien" - Phrase not found.
> >
> > "Invader" - phrase not found (see below)
> > > Don't bother with he 5th.
>
> Why because you don't like that it says "person"?
>
> >
> > "Just because you don't see a judge doesn't mean you aren't
> > receiving due process."
> >
> > In some cases, immigrants are not granted a hearing at all. When
> > asked about the president's tweet, White House Press Secretary Sarah
> > Sanders pointed to the process of "expedited removal," which was
> > created by the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant
> > Responsibility Act of 1996.
> >
> > Under the expedited removal process, immigrants who have been in the
> > country illegally for less than two years and are apprehended within
> > 100 miles of the border can be deported almost immediately without
> > going through a court hearing.
> >
> > WHO was President in 1996?
>
> I don't care.
>
> If a law is in conflict with the US constitution, the law loses.
>
> (And no one is impressed with your ability to copy and paste).