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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Can You Tell Us WHY You Want Illegal Alien Gang Members To Have
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 14:03:53 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2025-04-15 13:57, Skeeter OG wrote:
> In article <vtma07$57th$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
> says...
>>
>> On 2025-04-14 17:35, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 16:40:02 -0700,  Alan says...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2025-04-14 16:13, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 15:29:15 -0700,  Alan says...
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-04-14 15:14, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can You Tell Us WHY You Want Illegal Alien Gang Members To
>>>>>>> Have Due Process And Stay In America?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because every "person" is guaranteed it by the US
>>>>>> constitution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bu bu but it'ssss a living Constitution, open for amending and
>>>>> interpretation, sayeth the liberals.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's an old out-of-date document. We can change it.
>>>>>
>>>>> There.
>>>
>>> What if 20 million Mexicans crossed YOUR borders, would you grant
>>> each and every one of them "due process", knowing it would cost
>>> Canadians ONE TRILLION DOLLARS?
>>
>> Let's deal with a crap ton of your bullshit.
>>
>> First of all, there aren't "20 million Mexicans" illegal immigrants in
>> the US. There aren't even 20 million illegal immigrants in total.
>>
>> In 2022, the DHS estimated that there were about 11 million.
>>
>> "In summary, the Office of Homeland Security Statistics (OHSS) estimates
>> 11.0 million unauthorized immigrants were living in the United States on
>> January 1, 2022"
>>
>> <https://web.archive.org/web/20240515161826/https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2024-05/2024_0418_ohss_estimates-of-the-unauthorized-immigrant-population-residing-in-the-united-states-january-2018?january-2022.pdf>
>>
>> (And naturally, that PDF disappeared from the DHS website when Trump's
>> junta came to power).
> 
> Bullshit.

Nope. Fact.

>>
>> Secondly, Biden managed to deport more illegal immigrants during his
>> term and Trump did during his first term.
> 
> Proof?

<https://infographicsite.com/infographic/deportations-under-us-presidents-statistics/>

>>
>>
>>>
>>> Methinks your fellow Canadians would NOT go for that.
>>>
>>> Rounding up all illegal immigrants and providing them with trials
>>> could cost governments nearly $1 trillion, with estimates suggesting
>>> at least $88 billion per year for processing and removal of one
>>> million undocumented immigrants. Additionally, the current
>>> immigration court system would require significant expansion to
>>> handle the backlog of cases, further increasing costs.
>>
>> Let's do a little arithmetic for you:
>>
>> $88 billion / 1 million = $88,000 per person.
>>
>> Now divide $1 trillion by $88,000 and you get:
>>
>> 11,363,636
>>
>> So you were bright enough to notice that your copied and pasted source
>> here contradicts that "20 million" figure you claimed above.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Fuck you Canadian, unless YOU, rich boy, wanna help us pay for that.
>>>
>>>> Until you change it, it is the law of the land.
>>>
>>> Show us the law where illegal invaders get due process.
>>
>> 5th amendment: "no PERSON"
> 
> They broke the law when they crossed. Guilty.

"innocent until PROVEN guilty".