From: Skeeter OG <invalid@none.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Can You Tell Us WHY You Want Illegal Alien Gang Members To Have Due Process And Stay In America?
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 15:23:08 -0600
Organization: UTB
In article <vtmhjq$h696$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
says...
>
> On 2025-04-15 13:57, Skeeter OG wrote:
> > In article <vtma07$57th$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> On 2025-04-14 17:35, AlleyCat wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 16:40:02 -0700, Alan says...
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 2025-04-14 16:13, AlleyCat wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 15:29:15 -0700, Alan says...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 2025-04-14 15:14, AlleyCat wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Can You Tell Us WHY You Want Illegal Alien Gang Members To
> >>>>>>> Have Due Process And Stay In America?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Because every "person" is guaranteed it by the US
> >>>>>> constitution.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bu bu but it'ssss a living Constitution, open for amending and
> >>>>> interpretation, sayeth the liberals.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's an old out-of-date document. We can change it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There.
> >>>
> >>> What if 20 million Mexicans crossed YOUR borders, would you grant
> >>> each and every one of them "due process", knowing it would cost
> >>> Canadians ONE TRILLION DOLLARS?
> >>
> >> Let's deal with a crap ton of your bullshit.
> >>
> >> First of all, there aren't "20 million Mexicans" illegal immigrants in
> >> the US. There aren't even 20 million illegal immigrants in total.
> >>
> >> In 2022, the DHS estimated that there were about 11 million.
> >>
> >> "In summary, the Office of Homeland Security Statistics (OHSS) estimates
> >> 11.0 million unauthorized immigrants were living in the United States on
> >> January 1, 2022"
> >>
> >> <https://web.archive.org/web/20240515161826/https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2024-05/2024_0418_ohss_estimates-of-the-unauthorized-immigrant-population-residing-in-the-united-states-january-2018?january-2022.pdf>
> >>
> >> (And naturally, that PDF disappeared from the DHS website when Trump's
> >> junta came to power).
> >
> > Bullshit.
>
> Nope. Fact.
How do you know?
>
> >>
> >> Secondly, Biden managed to deport more illegal immigrants during his
> >> term and Trump did during his first term.
> >
> > Proof?
>
> <https://infographicsite.com/infographic/deportations-under-us-presidents-statistics/>
How about something credible?
>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Methinks your fellow Canadians would NOT go for that.
> >>>
> >>> Rounding up all illegal immigrants and providing them with trials
> >>> could cost governments nearly $1 trillion, with estimates suggesting
> >>> at least $88 billion per year for processing and removal of one
> >>> million undocumented immigrants. Additionally, the current
> >>> immigration court system would require significant expansion to
> >>> handle the backlog of cases, further increasing costs.
> >>
> >> Let's do a little arithmetic for you:
> >>
> >> $88 billion / 1 million = $88,000 per person.
> >>
> >> Now divide $1 trillion by $88,000 and you get:
> >>
> >> 11,363,636
> >>
> >> So you were bright enough to notice that your copied and pasted source
> >> here contradicts that "20 million" figure you claimed above.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Fuck you Canadian, unless YOU, rich boy, wanna help us pay for that.
> >>>
> >>>> Until you change it, it is the law of the land.
> >>>
> >>> Show us the law where illegal invaders get due process.
> >>
> >> 5th amendment: "no PERSON"
> >
> > They broke the law when they crossed. Guilty.
>
> "innocent until PROVEN guilty".
Crossing the wrong way is guilt enough.