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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Can You Tell Us WHY You Want Illegal Alien Gang Members To Have
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 18:01:20 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2025-04-15 14:23, Skeeter OG wrote:
> In article <vtmhjq$h696$1@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
> says...
>>
>> On 2025-04-15 13:57, Skeeter OG wrote:
>>> In article <vtma07$57th$3@dont-email.me>, nuh-uh@nope.com
>>> says...
>>>>
>>>> On 2025-04-14 17:35, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 16:40:02 -0700,  Alan says...
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-04-14 16:13, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, 14 Apr 2025 15:29:15 -0700,  Alan says...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-04-14 15:14, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can You Tell Us WHY You Want Illegal Alien Gang Members To
>>>>>>>>> Have Due Process And Stay In America?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Because every "person" is guaranteed it by the US
>>>>>>>> constitution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bu bu but it'ssss a living Constitution, open for amending and
>>>>>>> interpretation, sayeth the liberals.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's an old out-of-date document. We can change it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There.
>>>>>
>>>>> What if 20 million Mexicans crossed YOUR borders, would you grant
>>>>> each and every one of them "due process", knowing it would cost
>>>>> Canadians ONE TRILLION DOLLARS?
>>>>
>>>> Let's deal with a crap ton of your bullshit.
>>>>
>>>> First of all, there aren't "20 million Mexicans" illegal immigrants in
>>>> the US. There aren't even 20 million illegal immigrants in total.
>>>>
>>>> In 2022, the DHS estimated that there were about 11 million.
>>>>
>>>> "In summary, the Office of Homeland Security Statistics (OHSS) estimates
>>>> 11.0 million unauthorized immigrants were living in the United States on
>>>> January 1, 2022"
>>>>
>>>> <https://web.archive.org/web/20240515161826/https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/2024-05/2024_0418_ohss_estimates-of-the-unauthorized-immigrant-population-residing-in-the-united-states-january-2018?january-2022.pdf>
>>>>
>>>> (And naturally, that PDF disappeared from the DHS website when Trump's
>>>> junta came to power).
>>>
>>> Bullshit.
>>
>> Nope. Fact.
> 
> How do you know?

Google it.

>>
>>>>
>>>> Secondly, Biden managed to deport more illegal immigrants during his
>>>> term and Trump did during his first term.
>>>
>>> Proof?
>>
>> <https://infographicsite.com/infographic/deportations-under-us-presidents-statistics/>
> 
> How about something credible?

What makes that incredible?

Or didn't you read the source for the figures?

"us 2022 yearbook of immigration statistics department of homeland security"

>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Methinks your fellow Canadians would NOT go for that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rounding up all illegal immigrants and providing them with trials
>>>>> could cost governments nearly $1 trillion, with estimates suggesting
>>>>> at least $88 billion per year for processing and removal of one
>>>>> million undocumented immigrants. Additionally, the current
>>>>> immigration court system would require significant expansion to
>>>>> handle the backlog of cases, further increasing costs.
>>>>
>>>> Let's do a little arithmetic for you:
>>>>
>>>> $88 billion / 1 million = $88,000 per person.
>>>>
>>>> Now divide $1 trillion by $88,000 and you get:
>>>>
>>>> 11,363,636
>>>>
>>>> So you were bright enough to notice that your copied and pasted source
>>>> here contradicts that "20 million" figure you claimed above.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Fuck you Canadian, unless YOU, rich boy, wanna help us pay for that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Until you change it, it is the law of the land.
>>>>>
>>>>> Show us the law where illegal invaders get due process.
>>>>
>>>> 5th amendment: "no PERSON"
>>>
>>> They broke the law when they crossed. Guilty.
>>
>> "innocent until PROVEN guilty".
> 
> Crossing the wrong way is guilt enough.
Unless it's proven in court, every PERSON is innocent.