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From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Can You Tell Us WHY You Want Illegal Alien Gang Members To Have Due Process And Stay In America?
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 17:10:47 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.


On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 18:04:41 -0700,  Alan says...  

> 
> On 2025-04-15 15:11, AlleyCat wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 11:53:58 -0700,  Alan says...
> > 
> >>> What if 20 million Mexicans crossed YOUR borders, would you grant
> >>> each and every one of them "due process", knowing it would cost
> >>> Canadians ONE TRILLION DOLLARS?
> >   
> >> First of all, there aren't "20 million Mexicans" illegal immigrants in
> >> the US. There aren't even 20 million illegal immigrants in total.
> > 
> > Can you please show me where I said there were 20 million illegal Mexicans in the U.S.?
> What were you implying then when you said:
> 
> "What if 20 million Mexicans crossed YOUR borders"?
> 
> Why that number?

Because it was more than 19,999,999 and less than 20,000,001

LOL.

For you... it's anything to say, I'm too stupid to refute you, AlleyCat, so I'm going to focus on something besides the issue.

I guess you're too stupid to know what a "what if" is... so...

Plonkitity, plonk, plonk, PLONK!

Plus, stupid, anyone with half a fucking brain KNOWS, that not ALL illegal invaders are MEXICANS. The number AND the people of 
Mexican origin were BOTH hypothetical... stupid.

Figures you would focus on the minutiae because you're too chicken shit to answer the question.

Answer the question: WHAT IF 20 million Mexicans crossed YOUR borders... would you grant each and every one of them "due 
process", knowing it would cost Canadians ONE TRILLION DOLLARS?

PERFECT narcissist behaviour. Can't feel superior, if you can't answer a question correctly.

Narcissists:
They Believe They Are Superior
They Refuse Accountability
They Fear Losing Control
Changing the Topic Completely
You Will Never Get An Honest Answer From A Narcissist, So Don't Expect One

It was a "what if" number that did NOT have anything to do with how many illegal invaders are in the U.S., but it's damn close 
enough for it to be a good number to ask about.

March 7, 2025:
"The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) now estimates that a record high 18.6 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS are living in 
the United States. That figure represents an 11 percent increase since FAIR's last estimate of 16.8 million in June 2023 and a 
28.2 percent increase over the four years."

So... I'll ask again... WHAT IF 20 million Mexicans crossed YOUR borders, would you grant each and every one of them "due 
process", knowing it would cost Canadians ONE TRILLION DOLLARS?

Just answer the question, pussy rich boy.

Methinks your fellow Canadians would NOT go for that.

Rounding up all illegal immigrants and providing them with trials could cost governments nearly $1 trillion, with estimates 
suggesting at least $88 billion per year for processing and removal of one million undocumented immigrants. Additionally, the 
current immigration court system would require significant expansion to handle the backlog of cases, further increasing costs.

Fuck you Canadian, unless YOU, rich boy, wanna help us pay for that. 

> Until you change it, it is the law of the land.

Show us the law where illegal invaders get due process.

Make sure the language is correct, because I can't find it.

Not in the Constitution, anyway.

"Illegal Immigrant" - Phrase not found.

"Illegal Alien" - Phrase not found.

"Invader" - phrase not found (see below)

Don't bother with he 5th.

"Just because you don't see a judge doesn't mean you aren't receiving due process."

In some cases, immigrants are not granted a hearing at all. When asked about the president's tweet, White House Press Secretary 
Sarah Sanders pointed to the process of "expedited removal," which was created by the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant 
Responsibility Act of 1996.

Under the expedited removal process, immigrants who have been in the country illegally for less than two years and are 
apprehended within 100 miles of the border can be deported almost immediately without going through a court hearing.

WHO was President in 1996?

You can try the 6th too. But no one is charging (accusing) them of anything. They came illegally, they need to go. If they had 
come in legally and simply overstayed? THEN, they have rights. Not fence-jumpers and river-swimmers.


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